Gerry,
I wasn't suggesting a Legacy Event for Analysis of autosomal DNA results.
Just a place to link the results file as an extra way of finding it and
a way to record that the test has been done.
Analysis is another thing altogether.
There are so far 19 webinars in the Legacy Webinar Library related to
using DNA presented by a number of different people.
The one I referenced of Watch Geoff Live as he first looked at his
results was of course a beginners webinar. He has another adding his
results to GedMatch - again for beginners.
There are another 7 DNA related webinars coming.
Of course there are many other places to learn more about using DNA.
Cathy
Michele/Support wrote:
Legacy is primary a genealogy database program not an advanced DNA
analysis tool. If you want advanced tools then Gedmatch, DNAGedcom
and Genome Mate Pro are where you need to be. All of these are free
though Gedmatch and DNAGedcom have some higher level capabilities at a
subscription price.
Michele
Technical Support
Millennia Corporation
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>
*From:*LegacyUserGroup
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*Sent:* Monday, December 19, 2016 2:09 AM
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*Subject:* [LegacyUG] However ..... RE: Question regarding the DNA
feature in Legacy
Dear Legacy users who are interested in DNA tests for genetic matches:
*/Counter-Point/*to Cathy’s response to Crystal and other Legacy users
who have autosomal DNA test results:
Michele/Support <mailto:[email protected]>
Monday, 19 December 2016 7:46 PM
Legacy is primary a genealogy database program not an advanced DNA
analysis tool. If you want advanced tools then Gedmatch, DNAGedcom
and Genome Mate Pro are where you need to be. All of these are free
though Gedmatch and DNAGedcom have some higher level capabilities at a
subscription price.
Michele
Technical Support
Millennia Corporation
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>
*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
*[email protected]
*Sent:* Monday, December 19, 2016 2:09 AM
*To:* 'Legacy User Group' <[email protected]>
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] However ..... RE: Question regarding the DNA
feature in Legacy
Dear Legacy users who are interested in DNA tests for genetic matches:
*/Counter-Point/*to Cathy’s response to Crystal and other Legacy users
who have autosomal DNA test results:
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Monday, 19 December 2016 3:09 PM
Dear Legacy users who are interested in DNA tests for genetic matches:
*/Counter-Point/*to Cathy’s response to Crystal and other Legacy users
who have autosomal DNA test results:
It’s simply not useful or practicable for anyone to place Mb of
autosomal DNA raw data into a Legacy event, since it would not serve
any purpose (that I can see) to use for comparing DNA-sequence
matches, because Legacy and its integrated FamilySearch database do
not yet support autosomal DNA tests to evaluate possible genetic
relationships; i.e.,
1. I participated in the mentioned AncestryDNA webinar hosted by
Geoff and (not an insult, just factual) a not-so-expert colleague,
where they viewed his AncestryDNA autosomal results; however, (as
stated above) Legacy and FamilySearch do not support autosomal DNA
test results yet, so this webinar was not very practical for most
Legacy users, and it had only partial rudimentary information that
most AncestryDNA users (except brand-new novices) would perhaps
find useful, which is more clearly and completely discussed in
AncestryDNA tutorials and at other better DNA analyses websites.
2. AncestryDNA is very limited and a relatively poor DNA analyses
service, since it has no genetic analyses tools (like chromosome
browsers offered by other DNA analyses websites), and it uses
fixed undefined genetic matching algorithms that have resulted in
highly variable results with potential matches over short time
periods. For example, I have 4 family members’ autosomal DNA
results at AncestryDNA, which have changed dramatically or even
totally eliminated valid associations with close relatives’
“Circles” (~ triangulated genetic matches of 3 or more closer
relatives); this is most likely due to AncestryDNA’s undocumented
subjective changes in math algorithms used to report autosomal DNA
sequence matches due to more restrictive and conservative criteria
(which tend to omit valid genetic matches, such as previously
appeared in many of my prior Circles of close family units).
3. Experienced DNA analysts often report, and I fully agree from long
and broad experiences for multiple reasons, that the best current
website to use for autosomal DNA evaluations is *GEDmatch.com*;
FamilyTreeDNA.com is usually considered second best, 23andMe.com
follows, then a newcomer is MyHeritage.com with fairly good
autosomal DNA matching and a huge European database of family
trees, and */AncestryDNA is in last place/* for helping to best
determine genetic matches from autosomal DNA results. The main
reasons for this ranking of usefulness and relative success are:
* _GEDmatch_has many powerful DNA analyses tools, where you can
match either or both your uploaded autosomal DNA results
(GEDmatch does not provide testing services, just good DNA
analyses) and/or your family tree relationships that you
upload for FREE from a GEDcom file; their chromosomal browser
and graphical presentations of results with clear definitions
are excellent, and they allow you (with appropriate
explanations, caveats and warnings) to customize selection
criteria for genetic matches that can really help determine if
you and a particular individual share DNA sequences in the
same segments of a specific chromosome, or not – very valuable
tool, along with the 2-D and 3-D chromosomal browser graphics
and simple matrix reports plus detailed triangulation tools
and much more. Maybe this sounds complicated, but GEDmatch
makes it quite easy to use and understand what you are doing
and why and what it means in terms of potential genetic
matches; again, a stark contrast from NO such tools or similar
information provided by the meager AncestryDNA.
* _FTDNA_costs $39 to upload your autosomal DNA, and they have
some good DNA analytical tools – especially their Family
Finder and a chromosome browser; they are sponsored by
National Geographic, and they now offer the most affordable
autosomal DNA tests at $59 during December (else the tests
cost $99)
* _MyHeritage_just began to let members upload autosomal DNA for
FREE, and they contract with FTDNA to analyze and report
potential matches back to members in their family trees;
however, they have no tools to conduct more detailed genetic
match evaluations
* _23andMe_has a good long reputation, but has focused more on
specialized and less informative tests (to use for genetic
matching of closer relatives) such as Y-DNA, X-DNA, and mt-DNA
that have more specific and narrower uses that some
genealogists and researchers use; FTDNA also has emphasized
these specialized non-autosomal testing, and only in recent
years have autosomal DNA test results been able to be used
more successfully to help identify potential relatives vs
non-relatives (lab methods and math formulas to report
autosomal DNA results continually change)
* _AncestryDNA_has had the cheapest autosomal DNA test prices
for several years of ~$89-99, until FTDNA’s holiday offer this
month for $59 vs $99 normally; however, AncestryDNA has no DNA
analyses tools and relatively naïve support staff, plus most
importantly is that their genetic match results and
demographic origins are not very consistent or accurate
(changing over short times, relatively large margins of
accepted errors in results vs other DNA testing services, etc.)
I wish and am waiting for Legacy and FamlySearch to incorporate
autosomal DNA test results into their databases and software to help
match up closer relatives, which I hoped the soon-to-be-released
*LegacyDeluxe v9* might support; LegacyDeluxe v8 has existing
data-entry fields for non-autosomal DNA results, of mostly
“haplo-groups” derived from Y- and X- or mitochondrial-DNA tests,
mostly supported for older DNA analytical service companies that are
becoming out-dated or have gone out of business (as far as I can tell,
when checking out their websites).
_Current Bottom-Line_: anyone wanting to get the best value and
productive results from their autosomal DNA tests should *_import them
into GEDmatch_*.com *and* *_FamilyTreeDNA_*.com, where you can _also
upload your GEDcom files with family tree_ information and then */use
customized searching/* to better evaluate potential genetic matches;
you’ll be amazed at how much more and better autosomal DNA information
can be readily obtained for free or low cost at these websites (vs
uncertain and frustratingly questionable matches reported by
AncestryDNA) – remember, FTDNA has its autosomal DNA tests on sale for
$59.
Dr. Gerry H
*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Cathy
Pinner
*Sent:* Sunday, December 18, 2016 10:00 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Question regarding the DNA feature in Legacy
Crystal,
You need to add an Event and attach the Autosomal DNA results to that.
The results are quite different and can't be entered in the way that
the listed DNA results can be. They're several MB rather than a few lines.
Note that Legacy Webinars have lots of webinars on DNA including very
useful ones on understanding the Ancestry Autosomal test results in
the Watch Geoff Live series where he sits with an expert when first
looking at his results. You'll need a subscription to watch
http://familytreewebinars.com/dna
Cathy
Crystal Payne wrote:
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