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If you use the Insert>endnotes feature in your Word, OpenOffice, or LibreOffice
program, they will AUTOMATICALLY be created and re-ordered if necessary! It is
marvelous!
Mary K. Lund
From: CE WOOD <[email protected]>
To: Legacy User Group <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book
#yiv8689406190 #yiv8689406190 -- P
{margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv8689406190 Okay, I DO use endnotes; I mis
typed.
The problem is, that when you need to change the placement of photos because of
horrendous placement using RTF, you DO have to renumber ALL succeeding
endnotes. There is no way around that. Legacy produces all photos in one size.
Depending on the resolution of the photo and how much detail is needed, photos
may need to be resized.
Even more difficult is having the pages of your book or report not have
enormous amounts of blank space. Moving some photos to the next page and moving
other photos to the previous page is often the only solution. THAT is where the
endnote numbering becomes a total mess. Remember, you do have descriptions and
event details to fit on the same page!
Half or more of blank space is because the next photo is very large, or because
the descriptions, event details, and photos fit just right on one page, but are
terrible when spread over several. That is important when you are creating a
report or book.
There is absolutely NO WAY around renumbering endnotes when you are trying to
create a "good-looking" report or a book for publishing. But then, maybe not
everyone cares how it looks.....
CE
From: LegacyUserGroup <[email protected]> on behalf of
Cathy Pinner <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 7:12 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book CE
Use endnotes with RTF - I don't think there is the choice to use
footnotes anyway.
And you won't have the problem.
Yes the pictures embedded in an RTF are all over the place. On
reflection I'm not sure how much that matters as the reason to go via
RTF is to be able to make thorough revisions and add more pictures and
have pictures at different sizes etc.
Indexes and Tables of Content are generated after you've finished
editing so that their page numbers are right.
Cathy
> CE WOOD <mailto:[email protected]>
> Thursday, 9 February 2017 10:14 AM
>
> One major problem with producing a book with Word is pictures. The
> easiest way to input data into Word is by creating an HTML file and
> copying that into Word. Whwther you do that, create a PDF and copy in,
> or and RTF file, the footnotes are the REAL problem.
>
>
> The problem is, that pictures are not always the right size or
> placement in the document. Changing their placement ruins the
> footnotes! Then, you have to go through the whole document and
> renumber the footnotes, which can take weeks, if you have nothing else
> to do.
>
>
> Huge blank spaces in your book are not usually what you want. Photos
> on separate pages are not always what you want. A simple one person
> report on an architect involved 1500 footnote sources for just the photos!
>
>
> I know Legacy is not a publishing program, but producing an acceptable
> document/book/report with appropriately sized photos in the best
> placement is a daunting task!
>
>
> It has nothing to do with my system, which is better than those of
> most computer experts.
>
>
>
> CE
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup <[email protected]> on
> behalf of Brian Lightfoot <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2017 5:45 PM
> *To:* 'Legacy User Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book
>
> I suspect that the reason many people have had problems with creating
> Book from Legacy using MSWord is that they are using it on a computer
> system with only minimal RAM and processing speed. Couple that with a
> Windows swapfile that exists on an older and slower hard disk drive is
> a sure-fire recipe for long waits for a simple edit or a system crash.
>
> The idea of creating separate chapters and editing them one at a time
> is a great idea that will take a lot of the burden off the limited
> resource system.
>
> Brian in CA
>
> *From:*LegacyUserGroup
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Carol
> Boswell
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2017 12:50 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book
>
> I had problems with a 125 page book using Word 2007. It was an
> editing nightmare. I've used Word for years and recommend perhaps
> saving in chapters in separate files. That way a correction on page
> 87 won't change words/pictures or placement on page 50. You could
> call BYU Print and Mail at 801 422-0432 and ask this question.
>
> Carol Boswell
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*LegacyUserGroup <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 7, 2017 10:14 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book
>
> I use MS Word 2007. A number of months ago somebody in the LUG
> mentioned limitations or problems with MS Word while assembling a
> book, and suggested another word processing program (possibly an
> open-source one). I do not remember the original question put the LUG,
> or the alternative word processing program.
>
> My basic question is whether others have had problems preparing
> printed books in MS Word. If so, which alternative word processing
> program would they suggest? I get nervous about doing complex things
> on computers, so try to foresee and prevent problems, rather than
> sorting out messes later on.
>
> I have been gradually preparing pages in MS Word, to be later inserted
> where Place Holder pages have been set aside via the Legacy Publishing
> Center. In them, I have inserted high resolution photos, maps etc.
> Could large file sizes cause problems e.g. Does MS Word have a small
> clipboard or memory which does not handle rearranging chapters or
> pages with high resolution images?
>
> I presume that when you save a book in the Publication Center as an
> RTF file, it would be compatible with any word processing program.
>
> When everything is just right, I intend to save the whole book as a
> PDF file before printing.
>
> John
>
> Carol Boswell <mailto:[email protected]>
> Thursday, 9 February 2017 4:50 AM
>
> I had problems with a 125 page book using Word 2007. It was an
> editing nightmare. I've used Word for years and recommend perhaps
> saving in chapters in separate files. That way a correction on page
> 87 won't change words/pictures or placement on page 50. You could
> call BYU Print and Mail at 801 422-0432 and ask this question.
>
>
> Carol Boswell
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup <[email protected]> on
> behalf of [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 7, 2017 10:14 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book
>
> I use MS Word 2007. A number of months ago somebody in the LUG
> mentioned limitations or problems with MS Word while assembling a
> book, and suggested another word processing program (possibly an
> open-source one). I do not remember the original question put the LUG,
> or the alternative word processing program.
>
> My basic question is whether others have had problems preparing
> printed books in MS Word. If so, which alternative word processing
> program would they suggest? I get nervous about doing complex things
> on computers, so try to foresee and prevent problems, rather than
> sorting out messes later on.
>
> I have been gradually preparing pages in MS Word, to be later inserted
> where Place Holder pages have been set aside via the Legacy Publishing
> Center. In them, I have inserted high resolution photos, maps etc.
> Could large file sizes cause problems e.g. Does MS Word have a small
> clipboard or memory which does not handle rearranging chapters or
> pages with high resolution images?
>
> I presume that when you save a book in the Publication Center as an
> RTF file, it would be compatible with any word processing program.
>
> When everything is just right, I intend to save the whole book as a
> PDF file before printing.
>
> John
>
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Wednesday, 8 February 2017 1:14 PM
>
> I use MS Word 2007. A number of months ago somebody in the LUG
> mentioned limitations or problems with MS Word while assembling a
> book, and suggested another word processing program (possibly an
> open-source one). I do not remember the original question put the LUG,
> or the alternative word processing program.
>
> My basic question is whether others have had problems preparing
> printed books in MS Word. If so, which alternative word processing
> program would they suggest? I get nervous about doing complex things
> on computers, so try to foresee and prevent problems, rather than
> sorting out messes later on.
>
> I have been gradually preparing pages in MS Word, to be later inserted
> where Place Holder pages have been set aside via the Legacy Publishing
> Center. In them, I have inserted high resolution photos, maps etc.
> Could large file sizes cause problems e.g. Does MS Word have a small
> clipboard or memory which does not handle rearranging chapters or
> pages with high resolution images?
>
> I presume that when you save a book in the Publication Center as an
> RTF file, it would be compatible with any word processing program.
>
> When everything is just right, I intend to save the whole book as a
> PDF file before printing.
>
> John
>
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