I'm just a user but find it very rude for people to use Legacy's free forum to 
recommend or suggest using other programs.  I think you should find another 
platform to do that.   Even a dog does not drop his dirt where he eats.  
We are here because we want to learn and teach one another how to use Legacy 
more effectively.  We are committed to the program despite it's minor things 
that don't match our ideal.  But all programs have those issues. You will never 
find the perfect product.  So, if you think another program is for you,  then 
please leave the forum and broadcast your favorite program on another forum.   
Stop disrespecting Legacy and it's family of users. 




-------- Original message --------From: [email protected] Date: 
5/3/17  2:01 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Legacy User Group 
<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data Entry Default 
Events 



Izhak,
Family Tree Maker 2017 
may have what you want. It is overdue for release (release was delayed due to 
bugs). I have never used it so I do not know if it would suit you. Perhaps 
others in the Legacy User Group can tell you. My impression is that it is very 
versatile. Like you, I really like Legacy but it does not have a feature which 
is very important to me- Unicode. Unfortunately for me FTM does not have 
Unicode 
either. Maybe you will have better luck.
My understanding is FTM 
is now fully owned by mackiev.com and independent from ancestry.com. These 
links 
give some information about it.
https://support.mackiev.com/
https://www.ancestry.com/academy/course/family-tree-maker 
John


 

From: Itzhak Epstein 
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 2:40 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data Entry Default Events
 
Cathy,

Yes.  
I am not so proficient in Legacy nomenclature.  I fully understood why 
baptism and burial for which there may be documentation are reasonable 
surrogates for birth and death respectively.

As for my aside about "cause 
of death", I was surprised by the fifth default item in the family view 
screen.  Why is it so important?  BTW:  RootsMagic includes this 
item (also burial but not christening) in its default customizable data entry 
screen.

It would have been nice if upon the establishment of a new Legacy 
family file, we could be given suggested defaults and an immediate opportunity 
to substitute events.  Yes.  I already know about the issue of 
reports' templates.  

I mentioned my concerns to Legacy but they did 
not deem it a priority.

I am looking for a genealogy database program to 
recommend to collaborating relatives. The Master Genealogist, my own primary 
program, is not suitable.  Legacy is my primary candidate but  I am 
still reluctant to recommend it.

Itzhak



At 01:14 AM 
5/2/2017, you wrote:

Itzhak,

You are confusing 
  the Family View screen which you can customise as you have, with the 
  Individual Information screen.

The Family View screen is just a display 
  of your data.

The Individual Information screen is where you enter the 
  data.
Note to enter Cause of Death you have to open the Notes icon and 
  choose the Medical tab. It doesn't have a data entry field on the Individual 
  Information screen.

Yes it takes more clicks or keyboard shortcuts to 
  enter Occupation, Residence and Immigration. 
There can be multiple events 
  for all of those taking them out of Events/Facts wouldn't be particularly 
  helpful to most people.
Where they are, you have a lot of control how they 
  are used.
People do not have that control over the "vital events" of birth, 
  baptism/christening, death and buried.

For my research the christening 
  and buried fields are as important as the birth and death fields for earlier 
  generations as they are the dates that were recorded. I will never know the 
  birth or death dates of many people because they weren't recorded anywhere. I 
  know that shows a Western/Christian bias. 

So I support the option to 
  be able to define which birth alternative/equivalent field is used so that 
  people from other cultures some use it.

Cathy

Itzhak Epstein 
  wrote:

  
My individual information 
    screen is already configured to show born, 
died, residence, occupation, 
    immigration.

Then, when I try to add a relative, I can easily baptize 
    and bury 
her/him. If I want to indicate immigration, occupation or 
    residence 
the event's entry screen can be found with a click and few 
    additional 
key strokes.

People are born and they die. Some are 
    baptized and buried, but other 
events may be more significant to the 
    researcher or in her/his culture.

I still do not understand why cause 
    of death was given such prominent 
billing in the individual information 
    screen.

Itzhak


At 12:20 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:

    
On 01 May 2017 15:38, Bob 
      Austen wrote:

      
Maybe I am missing your 
        point…

You can change ‘Christened’ to another one of many 
        choices, including
‘Occupation’.

By clicking on the 
        ‘event title’ brings up a screen where you can
‘Customize 
        Family View Information’. Then clicking on the box with the
three 
        dots in it you can change the event to one of many.

I 
      think that what Itzhak is talking about is on the Individual's 
      
Information screen, where he wants the option of replacing the Born, 
      
Chr/Bap, Died and Buried dates/locations with other events that are 
      
more relevant to him and his research. Can't see it happening: people 
      are born, they live and die. What other Vital events can there 
      be?

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Mike Fry (Jhb)

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