I support John’s way of thinking. This is a Users’ Group, not a promotion platform for Legacy.
What we all have in common – I assume – is our desire to do best possible genealogical research and conserve, present, share and publish the results in the best possible way. Legacy is just one tool to help us do that. If the development staff follow this group (an exercise commonly known as marketing), they will find many clues as to how they could optimize Legacy, and if anyone sends people off to look at other products without justification, then the Legacy folks are free to tell us why we should stay with Legacy. As for Unicode, those who need that may want to try AncestralQuest – it worked for me when importing Ukrainian (Cyrillic alphabet) names and places. And I am not associated with AQ in any way :-) Best, David Am 20170503 um 09:09 schrieb <[email protected]> <[email protected]>: Bob, I think many in the LUG, like me, use Legacy as their main program for building their family but also use other programs for the rare things Legacy cannot do. As you said, they all have limitations. At the end of the day, all programs are merely tools to be used how we want for our own purposes. A mechanic does not limit his toolbox to only one spanner or one screw driver. For my needs, Legacy would be as close as possible to perfect, if it had Unicode. Unfortunately, just before publishing anything, I need to export my family file to RootsMagic. It is not as versatile as Legacy and its interface / screens are hard for me to use due to my dyslexia. If Legacy does everything you want, you are very lucky but please do stop other users from helping each other to keep using Legacy by suggesting ways around its limitations. Legacy itself advertises supplementary tools such as charting and mapping software. John From: bobstree2 <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 4:29 PM To: Legacy User Group <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data Entry Default Events I'm just a user but find it very rude for people to use Legacy's free forum to recommend or suggest using other programs. I think you should find another platform to do that. Even a dog does not drop his dirt where he eats. We are here because we want to learn and teach one another how to use Legacy more effectively. We are committed to the program despite it's minor things that don't match our ideal. But all programs have those issues. You will never find the perfect product. So, if you think another program is for you, then please leave the forum and broadcast your favorite program on another forum. Stop disrespecting Legacy and it's family of users. -------- Original message -------- From: [email protected] Date: 5/3/17 2:01 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Legacy User Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data Entry Default Events Izhak, Family Tree Maker 2017 may have what you want. It is overdue for release (release was delayed due to bugs). I have never used it so I do not know if it would suit you. Perhaps others in the Legacy User Group can tell you. My impression is that it is very versatile. Like you, I really like Legacy but it does not have a feature which is very important to me- Unicode. Unfortunately for me FTM does not have Unicode either. Maybe you will have better luck. My understanding is FTM is now fully owned by mackiev.com and independent from ancestry.com. These links give some information about it. https://support.mackiev.com/ <> https://www.ancestry.com/academy/course/family-tree-maker <> John From: Itzhak Epstein <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 2:40 PM To: Legacy User Group <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data Entry Default Events Cathy, Yes. I am not so proficient in Legacy nomenclature. I fully understood why baptism and burial for which there may be documentation are reasonable surrogates for birth and death respectively. As for my aside about "cause of death", I was surprised by the fifth default item in the family view screen. Why is it so important? BTW: RootsMagic includes this item (also burial but not christening) in its default customizable data entry screen. It would have been nice if upon the establishment of a new Legacy family file, we could be given suggested defaults and an immediate opportunity to substitute events. Yes. I already know about the issue of reports' templates. I mentioned my concerns to Legacy but they did not deem it a priority. I am looking for a genealogy database program to recommend to collaborating relatives. The Master Genealogist, my own primary program, is not suitable. Legacy is my primary candidate but I am still reluctant to recommend it. Itzhak At 01:14 AM 5/2/2017, you wrote: > Itzhak, > > You are confusing the Family View screen which you can customise as you have, > with the Individual Information screen. > > The Family View screen is just a display of your data. > > The Individual Information screen is where you enter the data. > Note to enter Cause of Death you have to open the Notes icon and choose the > Medical tab. It doesn't have a data entry field on the Individual Information > screen. > > Yes it takes more clicks or keyboard shortcuts to enter Occupation, Residence > and Immigration. > There can be multiple events for all of those taking them out of Events/Facts > wouldn't be particularly helpful to most people. > Where they are, you have a lot of control how they are used. > People do not have that control over the "vital events" of birth, > baptism/christening, death and buried. > > For my research the christening and buried fields are as important as the > birth and death fields for earlier generations as they are the dates that > were recorded. I will never know the birth or death dates of many people > because they weren't recorded anywhere. I know that shows a Western/Christian > bias. > > So I support the option to be able to define which birth > alternative/equivalent field is used so that people from other cultures some > use it. > > Cathy > > Itzhak Epstein wrote: >> >> My individual information screen is already configured to show born, >> died, residence, occupation, immigration. >> >> Then, when I try to add a relative, I can easily baptize and bury >> her/him. If I want to indicate immigration, occupation or residence >> the event's entry screen can be found with a click and few additional >> key strokes. >> >> People are born and they die. Some are baptized and buried, but other >> events may be more significant to the researcher or in her/his culture. >> >> I still do not understand why cause of death was given such prominent >> billing in the individual information screen. >> >> Itzhak >> >> >> At 12:20 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote: >>> >>> On 01 May 2017 15:38, Bob Austen wrote: >>>> >>>> Maybe I am missing your point >>>> >>>> >>>> You can change âChristenedâ to another one of many choices, including >>>> âOccupationâ. >>>> >>>> By clicking on the âevent titleâ brings up a screen where you can >>>> âCustomize Family View Informationâ. Then clicking on the box with the >>>> three dots in it you can change the event to one of many. >>> >>> >>> I think that what Itzhak is talking about is on the Individual's >>> Information screen, where he wants the option of replacing the Born, >>> Chr/Bap, Died and Buried dates/locations with other events that are >>> more relevant to him and his research. Can't see it happening: people are >>> born, they live and die. What other Vital events can there be? >>> >>> -- >>> Regards >>> Mike Fry (Jhb) >>> >>> -- >>> >>> LegacyUserGroup mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To manage your subscription and unsubscribe >>> http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com >>> <http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com> >>> Archives at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/> >> >> Itzhak Epstein New York, NY >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> -- >> >> LegacyUserGroup mailing list >> [email protected] >> To manage your subscription and unsubscribe >> http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com >> <http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com> >> Archives at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/> > Itzhak Epstein New York, NY > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list [email protected] To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list [email protected] To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list [email protected] To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
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