I actually found one the other day by changing  (reducing) the resolution
on the second monitor.

I haven't tried Bob's Window - right (or left) arrow yet.

I don't understand is why it got worse with Legacy 9 and why it doesn't
happen in other programs if it is a Windows issue. But I really don't care
whose issue it is. I just want it resolved!

Cheryl

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Sherry <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is something I've dealt with for years when I was using Win7 and then
> again after a fresh install of Win10 and talked with Ken, one of the
> programmers, about it. He can't duplicate it and doesn't know what's going
> on with it. And yes, I've seen this only with Legacy as well.
>
> I've only seen it with v8. I used to use that version on my secondary
> monitor all the time. I haven't been using v9 on the secondary monitor, so
> it hasn't been an issue.
>
> If I open v8 on the secondary monitor, I don't have any problems with the
> windows going partially off screen.
>
> I have previously tried Brian's suggestion of deleting the Legacy2.usr
> file many times so Legacy can create a fresh one, but that hasn't helped at
> all.
>
> It sounds like you do have both monitors on though. Have you tried playing
> around with the settings for dual monitor display? Could your resolution be
> part of the culprit if they're completely disappearing? I use a higher
> resolution.
>
> And no, I wouldn't expect a "child" window to show on the taskbar, task
> manager, or in alt-tab, except for a couple of instances where the
> programmers have broken them out to be independent, such as Legacy
> Charting, File > Export and a couple of other places.
>
>
> Sherry
>
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:39 AM, Cheryl Rothwell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> No, the missing windows do NOT show in task manager. I've tried that.
>>
>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Ian Thomas <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If a computer has 2 screens, it is often the fault of the
>>> screen-switching software that something doesn’t fit or disappears  - which
>>> not always under Windows ' complete control.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In Windows 10, you have extra facilities (go to Settings, and use
>>> search)  but the most useful and neglected is the small icon on your Task
>>> Bar (mine is at bottom, left - to the right of Cortanas's microphone).
>>> It’s called the Task View – it looks like a screen.
>>>
>>>
>>> [ above: a 10Kb image – guaranteed no malware. If your emails are set to
>>> plain text, this will be an attachment, not within the email ]
>>>
>>> This allows you to view all windows (term meaning the displaying area
>>> for each programme, or part’ of a programme) and by clicking on one of
>>> those, it will have ‘focus’.
>>>
>>> That’s a hint worth trying – I often have a great number of windows
>>> open, including multiple web pages in one or several browsers, and it
>>> removes a lot of confusion to be able to see what’s where on my (single)
>>> screen.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ian Thomas
>>>
>>> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> On Behalf Of Robert57P_gmail
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2017 7:25 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] window opens off screen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alt-Tab only cycles through open APPLICATIONS (programs) Alt-ESC will
>>> not only cycle through open applications, but will also cycle through open
>>> CHILD windows.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately (usually) neither will help you find the window if it is
>>> off screen.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you can get focus to the child window, try WINDOW-RIGHT ARROW (or
>>> WINDOW-LEFT ARROW).  Keep hitting same key combo until the child shows up
>>> on the desired screen.  WINDOW-ARROW key takes the window that is in focus,
>>> and moves it to the left edge of its current monitor (if you use left),
>>> then to the right edge of the next monitor to the left, then to the center
>>> of that next monitor, then to the left edge of that monitor,
>>>
>>> then right edge of 3rd monitor, etc, etc, etc.   The good thing about
>>>
>>> this - it WRAPS - so when it gets to the left edge of the left most
>>> monitor it will circle around the right edge of the right most monitor,
>>> then center of the right most monitor, etc.  Eventually it should end up
>>> being visible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With Windows 7 (my Windows 10 machine is doing a backup, so I can't test
>>>
>>> it) - I tried having a Legacy child window open, then made some other
>>> program the active window.  Then, by clicking on the Legacy icon on the
>>> task bar, the CHILD became active - and thus I was able to move the child
>>> window around using the WINDOW-ARROW method.  In other words, I did NOT
>>> need to click on the child to make it active - just clicking on the Legacy
>>> icon made the child active.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can also try right clicking on the task bar and select CASCADE
>>> WINDOWS or on SHOW WINDOWS STACKED - but I'm not sure if this will bring a
>>> CHILD window back to your main monitor.  Worth a try though.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have some programs that, no matter WHERE I last closed them, they
>>> INSIST on opening on some other monitor the next time.  It can get real OLD
>>> real FAST - but I've learned to just deal with it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> btw - there is another method that works for a PROGRAM window that is
>>> "lost", but it apparently does not work for a CHILD window that is
>>>
>>> lost:  SHIFT-Right click on the icon on the task bar, select RESTORE (if
>>> RESTORE is available - if it is gray, move on to next step).  Then
>>> SHIFT-Right click on the icon again and select MOVE (and let go of the
>>> SHIFT-Right-click).  Then hold down either the right or the left arrow to
>>> move the window.  Of course it helps if you have a good idea if the window
>>> is "lost" to the left or right. (If you have good eyes, you can sometimes
>>> tell this by first watching the button on the task bar as you repeatably
>>> click on it - you may see a faint image "swoosh" off to the left or to the
>>> right (IF you have that feature turned on in Windows - it is on by default
>>> I believe).)  This method does NOT wrap!  So you can end up shoving the
>>> window further off the screen!  If it doesn't show up fairly quickly, then
>>> hold down the other arrow key to see if it comes flying in from that side.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/08/2017 14:47, Brian Kelly wrote:
>>>
>>> > You are missing an important Windows tool for finding missing screens
>>>
>>> > that will let you find the screen without using the three finger
>>>
>>> > salute (CTRL-ALT-DEL).
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > When you think a window has opened off the visible screens hold ALT
>>>
>>> > and click the spacebar. This will open a windows menu for the current
>>>
>>> > (hidden) screen. One of the options there is move. The position of the
>>>
>>> > menu will give you a clue as to where the hidden screen is located. It
>>>
>>> > will be on the side of the monitor where that screen should be.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > Select move then use the arrow keys on your keyboard to move the
>>>
>>> > hidden window into view. When it is fully visible click enter to exit
>>>
>>> > the move mode.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > Legacy should remember the last place a screen was opened/closed and
>>>
>>> > reopen it there. In older version those screen locations were stored
>>>
>>> > in the Legacy2.usr file. If they still use that file you will find it
>>>
>>> > in your _AppData\Usr folder. Deleting that file is major surgery
>>>
>>> > because it will reset all screens back to their default sizes and
>>>
>>> > locations.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > Brian Kelly
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > On 08-May-17 12:05 PM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
>>>
>>> >> I have two monitors. With Legacy 8 when a new window was opened it
>>>
>>> >> often was partially off either screen - but I could locate it and
>>> move it.
>>>
>>> >> With Legacy 9 it is often off both screens and cannot be located.
>>>
>>> >> Since Legacy has a window open I can't do anything. The program is
>>>
>>> >> basically locked and I have to close the Legacy window - not a proper
>>> close.
>>>
>>> >>
>>>
>>> >> Does anyone know a way to tell Legacy where to open a window? Since
>>>
>>> >> no other program does this I have to think it is Legacy. Maybe there
>>>
>>> >> is a setting I'm missing?
>>>
>>> >>
>>>
>>> >> Cheryl Rothwell
>>> <http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com>
>>>
>>
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