Chris,
The many of the deficiencies of the Event Addresses in Legacy are logged
as is the need for more integration between Location and Address.
Until that is changed, I'll continue not using Event Addresses.
I know some people use Town - Church or cemetery, etc for their location.
I don't like that any better in terms of output.
But I don't look at a whole list of St Mary's in the Location List
because I SORT the list Right to Left.
It's your choice if you don't like having buildings in the Location Index.
Note if you enter Event Address Notes, they are not able to be outputted
anywhere. On the other hand, Location Notes can be seen both in Location
Reports and in Location Indexes.
Cathy
Jane Linkswiler wrote:
Me, too. I don’t put previous home addresses there but business…yes.
All my cemeteries, churches for events but, who knew, when you add map
coordinates, unless you are in edit mode, it creates a whole new address!
Jane in Phoenix
*From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> *On
Behalf Of *Roberta Schwalm
*Sent:* Monday, July 23, 2018 6:36 AM
*To:* legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Address Information
I have always put the name of the Church where the baptism or marriage
took place. I also enter the name of the cemetery where
burial/inurnment took place. I have always thought that it was the
simplest way to go.
Roberta
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:27 AM Chris Hill
<chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com <mailto:chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Hi Cathy
That was pretty well what I had suspected. It almost seems
that the developers only built half of the system with dealing
with locations/places vs addresses, or just added addresses as a
later extension.
I started using the locations to locate a physical area such
as a Village or Town / / County / Country (being UK based and
based on the GeoLocation list), with occasional extensions to add
further sub-units, such as Hatcham, New Cross, , Surrey, England
where Hatcham, Surrey would be misleading.
I then started finding references to churches, as in baptisms
and marriages, and started adding those to the location list, and
my current locations list is around 2500 entries, of which 200 or
so start with St church / location. I rather suspect that this is
what most users do. But this started to become more complex,
especially as those entries were included in the Location index in
reports at the building level.
So I then started looking at the Address fields, which happily
show up as an icon on the marriage and events, or as Address..
option against birth, baptism, death and buried entries. Now, as I
am working through my database, I am moving all of the entries in
Location that refer to a building, or vessel, into the Address
entries, where I can be specific to the building or church by
street and location. Currently I have nearly 500 churches, or
equivalent, and more than 100 other addresses. The reverse is that
I have removed many of those from the Locations list since they
map to a single location.
My feeling is that I am working the 'right' way to record
Addresses as being different from Locations. but that the system,
while supporting both, does not have sufficient support for
addresses or integration between addresses and locations.
Regards
Chris
------ Original Message ------
From: "Cathy Pinner" <genea...@gmail.com <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>>
To: "Legacy User Group" <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
Sent: 23/07/2018 03:28:57
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Address Information
Chris,
Searching on Marriage Address isn't available.
I think the only thing you can do is work from the Master List
for Event Addresses (View - Master Lists - Addresses - Event)
and the Show List options there.
OR, as you say, go direct to the Access database and use SQL
since you appear to know how. So long as you make a backup
before you do this, you can always recover if you don't get it
right.
Put in a suggestion to include Addresses in the Search options
for Marriage.
;) I don't use Event Addresses in Legacy. The tools for
Locations are far better.
Because I don't use them, I rarely think of asking for them to
be improved. I leave that to those that do use them.
Nothing I do depends on keeping to the artificial 4 location
field idea (which works for most USA locations but not for
those in Australia or England where the majority of my
research is) so I enter locations from smallest unit to
country and sort the location list right to left.
Cathy
Chris Hill <mailto:chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com
<mailto:chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com>>
Sunday, 22 July 2018 11:29 PM
Hi Jenny
No, that does not work and gives very odd responses.
The problem is that I need to look at the Addresses with
the small house icon and not at the Place of the event or
marriage.
Regards
Chris
Jenny M Benson <mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
<mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk>>
Sunday, 22 July 2018 10:23 PM
I don't think I'm quite sure exactly what you want to
search for, but will searching for a Marriage with
Marriage Place empty AND a secondary condition of Marriage
with Marriage Event-Place not empty do what you need?
Chris Hill <mailto:chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com
<mailto:chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com>>
Sunday, 22 July 2018 9:47 PM
Where necessary, usually for baptism, death and
marriages, I normally place the location of the church
etc. into the corresponding fields in the individual or
the marriage, and for marriages I also place them into
events for marriage banns and witnesses. This then means
that if I enable it in the reports I will get the (address
text) in the report, which I can control as required.
My problem is that I have found that I may have missed
putting the addresses on marriage itself, but have put
them on the marriage events. What I cannot find is a
search or report that will identify this condition, and
not even one that will list the addresses listed on the
marriages and their events so that I can locate those that
I need to fix, and I have 3500 marriages in my database.
I could probably fix it will a single SQL statement
against the database, but don't really want to try that.
Regards
Chris
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Jane Linkswiler <mailto:jcl...@cox.net>
Tuesday, 24 July 2018 5:51 AM
Me, too. I don’t put previous home addresses there but business…yes.
All my cemeteries, churches for events but, who knew, when you add map
coordinates, unless you are in edit mode, it creates a whole new address!
Jane in Phoenix
*From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> *On
Behalf Of *Roberta Schwalm
*Sent:* Monday, July 23, 2018 6:36 AM
*To:* legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Address Information
I have always put the name of the Church where the baptism or marriage
took place. I also enter the name of the cemetery where
burial/inurnment took place. I have always thought that it was the
simplest way to go.
Roberta
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:27 AM Chris Hill
<chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com <mailto:chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Chris Hill <mailto:chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com>
Monday, 23 July 2018 7:26 PM
Hi Cathy
That was pretty well what I had suspected. It almost seems that
the developers only built half of the system with dealing with
locations/places vs addresses, or just added addresses as a later
extension.
I started using the locations to locate a physical area such as a
Village or Town / / County / Country (being UK based and based on the
GeoLocation list), with occasional extensions to add further
sub-units, such as Hatcham, New Cross, , Surrey, England where
Hatcham, Surrey would be misleading.
I then started finding references to churches, as in baptisms and
marriages, and started adding those to the location list, and my
current locations list is around 2500 entries, of which 200 or so
start with St church / location. I rather suspect that this is what
most users do. But this started to become more complex, especially as
those entries were included in the Location index in reports at the
building level.
So I then started looking at the Address fields, which happily show
up as an icon on the marriage and events, or as Address.. option
against birth, baptism, death and buried entries. Now, as I am working
through my database, I am moving all of the entries in Location that
refer to a building, or vessel, into the Address entries, where I can
be specific to the building or church by street and location.
Currently I have nearly 500 churches, or equivalent, and more than 100
other addresses. The reverse is that I have removed many of those from
the Locations list since they map to a single location.
My feeling is that I am working the 'right' way to record
Addresses as being different from Locations. but that the system,
while supporting both, does not have sufficient support for addresses
or integration between addresses and locations.
Regards
Chris
------ Original Message ------
From: "Cathy Pinner" <genea...@gmail.com>
To: "Legacy User Group" <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Sent: 23/07/2018 03:28:57
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Address Information
Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>
Monday, 23 July 2018 10:28 AM
Chris,
Searching on Marriage Address isn't available.
I think the only thing you can do is work from the Master List for
Event Addresses (View - Master Lists - Addresses - Event) and the Show
List options there.
OR, as you say, go direct to the Access database and use SQL since you
appear to know how. So long as you make a backup before you do this,
you can always recover if you don't get it right.
Put in a suggestion to include Addresses in the Search options for
Marriage.
;) I don't use Event Addresses in Legacy. The tools for Locations are
far better.
Because I don't use them, I rarely think of asking for them to be
improved. I leave that to those that do use them.
Nothing I do depends on keeping to the artificial 4 location field
idea (which works for most USA locations but not for those in
Australia or England where the majority of my research is) so I enter
locations from smallest unit to country and sort the location list
right to left.
Cathy
Chris Hill <mailto:chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com>
Sunday, 22 July 2018 11:29 PM
Hi Jenny
No, that does not work and gives very odd responses. The problem
is that I need to look at the Addresses with the small house icon and
not at the Place of the event or marriage.
Regards
Chris
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