So you don't think that helping Legacy users to not lose their hard work isn't on topic?
www.abbydalesystems.com<http://www.abbydalesystems.com> Numbers 6:24-26 ________________________________ From: LegacyUserGroup <[email protected]> on behalf of Andrew Robbie <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 12:20 PM To: 'Legacy User Group' <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Windows update Excuse me... This forum is to HELP Legacy users, not complain about how people choose to use their PERSONAL computers... Back on topic PLEASE! A -----Original Message----- From: LegacyUserGroup <[email protected]> On Behalf Of gbh Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 11:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Windows update You seem to have missed the whole point! As usual. I would NEVER leave my computer on all the time. When I use it, I turn it on. When I am done, I shut it down. I can't afford to keep it on all the time!! I have always set all my settings to NOT do any updates without first notifying me. These last two just did it on their own, and have wiped out all my files. That is so very wrong! All my data on the family files which has taken me years to gather are cleaned out. I have nothing now! Do you think I have enough time to start over again? I did make backips as I should, but they have disappeared as well. I do have some backups from 2017, and may just have to work with that, but it's a real disappointment. I tried to do a Restore tonight. And it ran for six hours, but got nowhere, and now I can't even find what I had before. It's destroyed all my settings, programs, and files. There is no recourse. I am done! Thanks for your help [sort of] Cathy, but don't bother. TG > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 at 7:13 PM > From: "Cathy Pinner" <[email protected]> > To: "Legacy User Group" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Windows update > > I agree with Ian. > Windows 10 is great but as with anything you need to learn how to > control it and spend some time learning how to use this major tool. > > There's no point in complaining that Windows updates without asking > when you haven't taken the time to learn how update works and chosen > your options to control it. > > I think leaving your computer on overnight and letting Windows update > when it feels like is madness as you probably just walk away from your > computer leaving programs open. It is automatically set to update > outside of your Active hours. I set my Active Hours to cover the time > my computer is on. > I also set to get notifications of updates and when I get a > notification I decide when it updates. At a convenient time later that > day I close all programs and click to restart. > With the current options there is one: Restart this device as soon as > possible when a restart is required to install an update ... > I don't know if that is on by default. I have it off. > > With Windows 10 1903 you can choose to delay an update for a period of > time. Go to the settings > update and security and choose your options. > > If you must leave your computer on 24/7 make sure you shut down most > programs and especially Legacy. Windows auto shutdown and restart does > not seem to close Legacy properly - perhaps because of the backup on > exit dialogue. This at least seems to mess with the Legacy settings. > > I also use the Windows Security rather than another security package. > I used to use other packages but knew when I first started using > Windows > 10 that there were problems with the major feature update pending and > other security packages and advice was to uninstall, do the update and > then reinstall so I delayed installing. I would think those problems > are all sorted ages ago but I decided to stay just with the Windows > Security and once a week I scan with Malwarebytes. When Malwarebytes > updates I use the free trial time for the full package. Occasionally > I'll use other security software scanners. But they've never found anything. > Windows Security occasionally finds and blocks something. > > Cathy > > Ian Thomas <mailto:[email protected]> Saturday, 31 August 2019 > > 7:24 AM > > > > (Off-topic) > > > > I am a strong defender of Windows 10. > > > > With major feature updates, Windows 10 _does_ remove some settings. > > For example, I set a number of additional “right-click” menus for > > Windows Explorer, using registry changes. Annoyingly, I have to > > re-establish these periodically. Another – also dependent on my > > intentional registry change – is my preference for an older image > > file viewer of Microsoft’s, called _Windows Photo Viewer_. It was > > removed from Windows some versions ago, before Windows 10, and each > > Windows 10 Update “makes it disappear” on my computers. > > > > But things being _moved into OneDrive_ are – in my experience with > > fault-remedies for other people – usually due to simple mistakes > > such as copying/dragging with the mouse, done inadvertent by the > > user but not the fault of either OneDrive installation nor of a > > Windows system update. User “slips” and “things disappearing” are > > usually down to something that Windows cannot guard against . > > > > Windows 10 in Settings has _many options_ for controlling WHEN – and > > even IF – Windows 10 Updates will occur. Many large enterprises opt > > to NOT update Windows 10 for many weeks after the release of a new > > Windows Update. That is also possible for me and for you as an > > independent “home user”. > > > > This does not interfere with the Windows Defender updates (the FREE > > anti-malware system built into Windows – and, incidentally, in my > > experience mucha better and less confronting and nagging program > > than the commercial anti-virus products). > > > > Ian Thomas > > > > Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia > > > > *From:*LegacyUserGroup > > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of > > *Roberta Schwalm > > *Sent:* Saturday, 31 August 2019 6:11 AM > > *To:* Legacy User Group <[email protected]> > > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Windows update > > > > Windows updated for me overnight and, when I saw the post, I decided > > to check my Legacy 9. Very relievied to see that everything is OK > > with mine. > > > > Roberta Schwalm > > > > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 1:29 PM gbh <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Roberta Schwalm <mailto:[email protected]> Saturday, 31 > > August 2019 4:11 AM Windows updated for me overnight and, when I saw > > the post, I decided to check my Legacy 9. Very relievied to see > > that everything is OK with mine. > > > > Roberta Schwalm > > > > > > > > gbh <mailto:[email protected]> > > Saturday, 31 August 2019 1:28 AM > > Last night, Windows did another update -- without asking me! > > This morning, when I turned on my computer again, everything from my > > Desktop is wiped out. Everything that I had painstakingly tried to > > re-build! All gone! > > Legacy will not open normally. When I get it started finally, it > > asks me to do setup once more! And asks me to get the Deluxe > > edition! I already have it! Of course, there is no family file > > anymore. There wasn't even any time to do a bsvk-up! > > Windows has re-set everything! What a stupid idiotic numbskull > > system that is!! If we ever have a choice, NEVER ever get Windows again! > > There is no sense to it. Get Linus or a Mac -- and if Legacy doesn't > > work on a Mac, so be it. 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