Andrew,
You were directing the conversation. I thought maybe we had a new
moderator. Just wondering.
On 9/2/2019 1:51 PM, Andrew Robbie wrote:
No, why do you ask?
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From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> On Behalf Of
Christopher Seward Sr.
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 12:06 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Windows update
Andrew, are you a moderator?
On 9/1/2019 12:20 PM, Andrew Robbie wrote:
Excuse me...
This forum is to HELP Legacy users, not complain about how people choose to use
their PERSONAL computers...
Back on topic PLEASE!
A
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From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> On
Behalf Of gbh
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 11:53 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Windows update
You seem to have missed the whole point! As usual.
I would NEVER leave my computer on all the time. When I use it, I turn it on.
When I am done, I shut it down. I can't afford to keep it on all the time!!
I have always set all my settings to NOT do any updates without first notifying
me. These last two just did it on their own, and have wiped out all my files.
That is so very wrong! All my data on the family files which has taken me years
to gather are cleaned out. I have nothing now! Do you think I have enough time
to start over again? I did make backips as I should, but they have disappeared
as well. I do have some backups from 2017, and may just have to work with that,
but it's a real disappointment.
I tried to do a Restore tonight. And it ran for six hours, but got nowhere, and
now I can't even find what I had before. It's destroyed all my settings,
programs, and files. There is no recourse. I am done!
Thanks for your help [sort of] Cathy, but don't bother.
TG
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 at 7:13 PM
From: "Cathy Pinner" <genea...@gmail.com>
To: "Legacy User Group" <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Windows update
I agree with Ian.
Windows 10 is great but as with anything you need to learn how to
control it and spend some time learning how to use this major tool.
There's no point in complaining that Windows updates without asking
when you haven't taken the time to learn how update works and chosen
your options to control it.
I think leaving your computer on overnight and letting Windows update
when it feels like is madness as you probably just walk away from
your computer leaving programs open. It is automatically set to
update outside of your Active hours. I set my Active Hours to cover
the time my computer is on.
I also set to get notifications of updates and when I get a
notification I decide when it updates. At a convenient time later
that day I close all programs and click to restart.
With the current options there is one: Restart this device as soon as
possible when a restart is required to install an update ...
I don't know if that is on by default. I have it off.
With Windows 10 1903 you can choose to delay an update for a period
of time. Go to the settings > update and security and choose your options.
If you must leave your computer on 24/7 make sure you shut down most
programs and especially Legacy. Windows auto shutdown and restart
does not seem to close Legacy properly - perhaps because of the
backup on exit dialogue. This at least seems to mess with the Legacy settings.
I also use the Windows Security rather than another security package.
I used to use other packages but knew when I first started using
Windows
10 that there were problems with the major feature update pending and
other security packages and advice was to uninstall, do the update
and then reinstall so I delayed installing. I would think those
problems are all sorted ages ago but I decided to stay just with the
Windows Security and once a week I scan with Malwarebytes. When
Malwarebytes updates I use the free trial time for the full package.
Occasionally I'll use other security software scanners. But they've never found
anything.
Windows Security occasionally finds and blocks something.
Cathy
Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com> Saturday, 31 August 2019
7:24 AM
(Off-topic)
I am a strong defender of Windows 10.
With major feature updates, Windows 10 _does_ remove some settings.
For example, I set a number of additional “right-click” menus for
Windows Explorer, using registry changes. Annoyingly, I have to
re-establish these periodically. Another – also dependent on my
intentional registry change – is my preference for an older image
file viewer of Microsoft’s, called _Windows Photo Viewer_. It was
removed from Windows some versions ago, before Windows 10, and each
Windows 10 Update “makes it disappear” on my computers.
But things being _moved into OneDrive_ are – in my experience with
fault-remedies for other people – usually due to simple mistakes
such as copying/dragging with the mouse, done inadvertent by the
user but not the fault of either OneDrive installation nor of a
Windows system update. User “slips” and “things disappearing” are
usually down to something that Windows cannot guard against .
Windows 10 in Settings has _many options_ for controlling WHEN – and
even IF – Windows 10 Updates will occur. Many large enterprises opt
to NOT update Windows 10 for many weeks after the release of a new
Windows Update. That is also possible for me and for you as an
independent “home user”.
This does not interfere with the Windows Defender updates (the FREE
anti-malware system built into Windows – and, incidentally, in my
experience mucha better and less confronting and nagging program
than the commercial anti-virus products).
Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of
*Roberta Schwalm
*Sent:* Saturday, 31 August 2019 6:11 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Windows update
Windows updated for me overnight and, when I saw the post, I decided
to check my Legacy 9. Very relievied to see that everything is OK
with mine.
Roberta Schwalm
On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 1:29 PM gbh <g...@representative.com
<mailto:g...@representative.com>> wrote:
Roberta Schwalm <mailto:robertaschw...@gmail.com> Saturday, 31
August 2019 4:11 AM Windows updated for me overnight and, when I saw
the post, I decided to check my Legacy 9. Very relievied to see
that everything is OK with mine.
Roberta Schwalm
gbh <mailto:g...@representative.com>
Saturday, 31 August 2019 1:28 AM
Last night, Windows did another update -- without asking me!
This morning, when I turned on my computer again, everything from my
Desktop is wiped out. Everything that I had painstakingly tried to
re-build! All gone!
Legacy will not open normally. When I get it started finally, it
asks me to do setup once more! And asks me to get the Deluxe
edition! I already have it! Of course, there is no family file
anymore. There wasn't even any time to do a bsvk-up!
Windows has re-set everything! What a stupid idiotic numbskull
system that is!! If we ever have a choice, NEVER ever get Windows again!
There is no sense to it. Get Linus or a Mac -- and if Legacy doesn't
work on a Mac, so be it. There are other programs that do.
TG
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