* C:\Users\zzzz\Documents is actually a reference to the one within the OneDrive structure, but you will need to identify that this is true. File Manager/Explorer -> go to C:\users\zzzz\ -> select Documents (don’t double click) -> right click -> properties -> location C:\Users\zzzz\Documents – local folder C:\Users\zzzz\OneDrive\Documents – folder is in cloud
From: LegacyUserGroup <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Johnson Sent: perjantai 16. joulukuuta 2022 19:20 To: Legacy User Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Serious problem with Legacy 9.0.0.414 Thanks, Chris. I have already moved my Legacy Data files directly on my C drive. but I still have lots of problems which I have detailed in the dozen emails I sent this morning. Dave On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 10:09 AM Chris Hill <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi I rather suspect that you have moved to a new PC with Win 11 installed, perhaps to Win 10, and fallen into the TRAP that Microsoft have given us (if you let it). This is one which I will NEVER do. They had the idea that they would provide you will a small, maybe 200MB, of off-site disk space and have placed all or part of C:\Users\zzzz\Documents to map to that area. That would be a good idea since you can share those files with other users, under your control, or across your own PCs, but actually most users would not need to do that. The only benefit is that you can access those off-site files from a web browser while away from home. The other half of the issue is that many users will have a lot of files which Microsoft, or Google and the other offerings, would want to move to the off-site basis. My media takes 4GB for 4100 files, but my photo collection needs 400GB for 45,000 files. So we need to make sure that we can control which files go off-site and which must stay locally. Now this will be based on what I am seeing on my Win 10 system, which has been growing from Win XP and earlier. On that they have created a E:\Users\Chris\OneDrive folder (note that I relocated my Users folder to a second disk) with some folders, including a Documents folder. Now I don't use that and my genealogy files are actually in E:\Users\Chris\Documents\Chris\Genealogy\Hill and related families\Family Tree. The double layered Chris folder is one issue that occurred when I merged two PCs and which I need to resolve. My guess is that your C:\Users\zzzz\Documents is actually a reference to the one within the OneDrive structure, but you will need to identify that this is true. It would also be worth doing searches on Google and the Microsoft web pages on how to manage a OneDrive solution. What I would do is to create a C:\Users\zzzz\Genealogy folder, which should be outside of OneDrive, and then relocate your database and files there. Before you do this I would take a Legacy backup, for both data and media, and save it away from OneDrive. If you have taken the default Legacy structure for files they should be in C:\Users\zzzz\Documents\Legacy Family Tree, and therefore within the OneDrive structure. One of my rules is to never work with default folder structures - my data and under my control. You need to locate all of the files related to your tree, which all begin with the same prefix, so mine are all Hill*.*, and copy those to the new folder. I would then copy the Media folder, or where your media files are, into the new folder. Then I would use Legacy Customise 6.1 and 6.2 to point to the newly copied folders. Unfortunately, you cannot relocate the Legacy files away from ...\Documents\Legacy Family Tree and under there you will find the settings that 6.1 and 6.2 maintain. Alternatively, you could get Legacy to restore from the backup file and locate them into the new folder. Hopefully, that will resolve your issues and you can finally remove the old files within the OneDrive structure. Hope this helps. Regards Chris ------ Original Message ------ From "Dave Johnson" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To "Legacy User Group" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date 16/12/2022 15:49:45 Subject Re: [LegacyUG] Serious problem with Legacy 9.0.0.414 All of my files are in OneDrive. How would you suggest I store them locally? Dave On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 3:00 AM Chris Hill <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I know that there are issues with OneDrive, and potentially with any off-site storage. The question is whether OneDrive wants, or can, maintain a duplicate set of files across its own system and on your PC, or if it will keep them remotely and just download those which you need to access locally. Running that with 24K files may cause networking and performance issues. Personalty I would never use an off-site solution for a lot of files and insist that they are stored locally, with the option to make off-site backup copies. Regards Chris ------ Original Message ------ From "Dave Johnson" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To "Legacy User Group" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date 15/12/2022 20:40:30 Subject Re: [LegacyUG] Serious problem with Legacy 9.0.0.414 Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately Legacy knows where all my files are. They are stored in OneDrive. Customize/Locations have been set correctly.. But the problem persists. Dave On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 11:12 AM Chris Hill <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: The FIRST rule on Legacy images is to ensure that they are located in the Media folder, or its sub-folders, as specified in Options / Customise / 6.2. The SECOND rule is to never rename or relocate them, since all that Legacy remembers are the folder and the file name. The THIRD rule is to have a standardised structure for file and folder names. From Customise / 6, use the View Current List of Media Folders. In an ideal situation it will list one or folders with the structure [Default Media Folder], followed by its sub-folders if necessary. The [Default Media Folder] is that specified in 6.2. Against each entry in that list, you have a number of Options. 1. Show List will show you a list of the individuals connected to that folder. 2. Add will allow you to add a new folder and Change will allow you to change it. Personally, I would not change it but use the next option to restructure it. 3. At the bottom, there is an option to combine one entry into another. Using that, Legacy will work through the entries in the folder and change the entries in the individual to point to the new folder. What it will not do is to physically relocate the files, which would be nice. 4. The Test All Media Folders will scan through the system and identify files that it cannot locate, listing the expected file. That leaves you with the question of relocating the files. From Tools / Media Relinker you can get Legacy to scan through for PC and try to locate the missing files, assuming that you have not renamed them. Once scanned, they will show you, one at a time, each matched file showing where it is and where it should be. You have the option to link to the matched file, and possibly for other files in the same folder, or to skip it. Again, the files do not get relocated and only the link is modified, and it would be nice if Legacy could relocate them. If you have a missing file and double click on it you will get the Find File option. That will give you the option of running the Media Relinker, or get Legacy to search for the file or, and often better, of doing the search manually on the basis that you probably know where the file is. Once found, you can quickly link to it. Personally, I would not run the Media Relinker on the basis that from the Test All Media Folders report I can quickly identify that I have either just renamed a file or that I have a folder which I can quickly use Windows Explorer to put in the correct location. Also, with my PC it can take a long time to scan and I generally know where my media are or should be. It would be useful to limit the Relink My Media to start at a folder and not at the top of the drive. With renamed files you have the issue of resetting them to match what is set in Legacy. If it is correctly linked in Legacy, then the Picture Centre will allow you to rename it, but it does not work the other way round. It would be nice if Legacy gave you better tools to manipulate the links and files. In my case, I used Access to modify the Legacy datebase and Explorer to relocate the folders and files. Hopefully, all that you need to do is locate the correct folders and relocate them to the correct positions, and ensure that they are correctly linked within Legacy. Really, it comes down to getting the structure correct at the beginning. Regards Chris ------ Original Message ------ From "Dave Johnson" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To "Legacy User Group" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date 15/12/2022 15:39:20 Subject [LegacyUG] Serious problem with Legacy 9.0.0.414 Somehow my Legacy is all screwed up. I can run a clean Compact Family File and a Check/Repair with no problems. But I lost many of my census images because of stupidity on my part. When I run a Test All Media Files. I get a list of 26870 lost census images. So I begin getting new copies of the census images and attach them to the correct individual. Lo and behold! When I run a Media Linker or a Test All Media Files, the corrected individuals still show up as missing their media links. I can go into the individual sources and verify that the census images are correct. They are correct. So somehow Legacy cannot find them. 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