Hi Robert
It is a good idea to use PSP this way and like you I do use various
'non-Legacy' methods to identify photos. However, I still think that
Legacy could handle this well if it was set up differently. As I am
scanning in a lot of documents as well as photos I am increasingly
finding that the Legacy caption, comments and filename are not at all
useful.

1       While I have separate identification for my images, when I use
them in Legacy I want to use Legacy in the same way I would a Source or
any other information to record this.
 
2       Legacy does not associate its comments in the database with the
photograph but to the event in which you use the photograph. When you
use the photograph again with another event (eg the spouse on a
tombstone) the comments have to be re-entered. Worse, if you delete the
event but not the photograph, the comments are lost.

3       Another oddity is that Legacy does allows you to enter comments
and a file reference in the picture centre to the photo when viewed in
'Picture List' but doesn't use this when you attach it to an event - you
have to re-enter it. To me this isn't sensible - an image is the same
image where ever it is used.

I believe that the picture should be treated like a master source and
the file reference and comments applied in the "Master" are universal.
There should also be the ability to associate additional comments to the
picture when it is attached to the event so you can make notes on how it
is associated to that event. For example the 'master' of a wedding group
photo would have a unique file number and a unique comment like  "The
Lynn family at Fred's wedding". When it was attached to Jane, it would
still have the same file number and the comment "The Lynn family at
Fred's wedding", but you could add "Jane is fourth from right in the
front row" to just that event. Perhaps it could have a separate file
reference associated with that particular event as well, but I can't see
how this would be used.

Actually on second thoughts it does sort of do this - the info entered
in Picture Centre / Picture list IS the master information. The problem
is that this is not kept with the image when it is attached. If the info
was simply retained (ie the Date / Cation / Comment / file ref) when it
was attached and protected (ie these fields remain part of the master so
changes made are reflected in all uses), and if there was an additional
comment field added to the event, it would work wonderfully.

Could Ken or Dave give us their comments on this? Perhaps I am missing
something and I am using this feature incorrectly? It is a potentially
very powerful tool, but as it stands it seems very limited.

Murray



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Robert Carneal
Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2003 5:44 a.m.
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures


<Copy>At 09:11 PM 11/27/2003, you wrote:
Question 2
The ability to add comments to a picture is great, but it is rare that I

would want to have different comments on the same picture when it is
linked 
to a different person or event. I would like to see it work like a
source 
with 'master comments' which are always associated with the picture and 
'local comments', which relate only to the specific event. <End>

If and when I know the person/s in the photo, I immediately make a label

for it and stick on the back. This would be a good time to ask if anyone

has any "Outlining" software, that is software that will scan a photo
but 
instead of the photo itself, it gives you the outline of everyone there.

You can print the outline and write in everyone's names.

But back on the subject, if the photo is of my GG-Uncle on a farm, I
will 
make a copy of the photo and use Photo Shop, or PSP,  and write the
names 
and locations below the photo. This is the one I use in Legacy, I don't 
need the caption to ID the people or make comments.

If I do +not+ know the people in the photo, I can't identify it, but it
is 
useful anyway, THEN I use the Caption field to make comments. I make use
of 
the caption, date, and comment fields.  I would hate to do without them.

But I do take the time whenever possible to embed all I know about it
below 
the photo. That way, no matter when it is shown, the comments, etc.,
also 
appear.  I hope that made sense.

Robert


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