Hello Cathy and Karen and anyone else interested,

I created a dummy new family and tried adding some strange characters (as
in persons, not letters of the alphabet) just to try some of the problems
reported here. I added a new unlinked person (no spouse, sibling, or
child) and he does NOT show up as married. Nor does he show up on any
marriage list/report. So that appears to be working correctly. Could it be
the manner in which he was added that makes a difference?

I did create a woman with 11 children, however, to test out the 10+
children problem reported earlier, and to make matters complicated, gave
them all different fathers. Now this WAS a problem, as Legacy assigned
marriage numbers for all the fathers with this one woman, even though I
did select 'unmarried'. I would suggest to Millenia/Legacy that future
versions somehow acommodate unmarried parents without forcing them into a
marriage structure. Maybe there could be a 'relationship' designation
('unmarried partner' for example) instead of marriage to which children
could be connected.

As another experiment in this database, I also made a single man, then
gave him an adopted child by clicking 'Add..son'. For this, Legacy created
a 'marriage' (MRIN) with an 'unknown' woman for this man. I can kind of
understand why it may be doing this (to just keep order), but it doesn't
seem right. And yes, I do know about changing labels, leaving notes of
explanation, etc. but these don't solve the underlying problem of failure
to acommodate structure for a fairly common scenario.

Any thoughts?

Jane Hakes


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Karen Sipe
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:02 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] can you customize the "Never Married" feature?
> 
> Hi Cathy;
> No I am not getting a ghost spouse.  Tom Montgomery suggested 
> that perhaps the person who first made this inquirey was 
> causing their data base to think the person had a spouse.  So 
> I added a new person did not click anything about children or 
> spouse, nothing is color highlighted.  But the person comes 
> up married...  If you change the status to unmarried that is 
> not enough.  Try it. You need to change the "married" next to 
> the Person 1 box.
> I will run a file repair after work today but I don't think 
> that is where the problem lyies.  I think it could still be a 
> glitch even though the current build has been out for several 
> months. If people like me don't spot it or don't print 
> reports very often it might take awhile. I noticed the 
> problem but didn't even think about it until someone else 
> questioned it on the LUG.
> As I said >>If you select "unmarried" as Paula suggested your 
> report says John had a child.<< Further investigation shows 
> that not all people come up married. To me this is weird!
> Karen
> 
> 
> >From: Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] can you customize the "Never 
> Married" feature?
> >Hi Karen,
> 
> >Are you really getting a ghost spouse when just adding an 
> individual? I 
> >haven't noticed this.
> 
> >Or only when you add a child to that individual?
> >Children have two parents whether you know the second one or 
> not and so 
> >the
> 
> >program adds a "Marriage" and you need to change the status 
> to "Unmarried".
> 
> >Take a look at the spouse icon on the Family View. For 
> someone without 
> >a spouse, it will be grey. For someone with a "ghost" 
> spouse, it will 
> >be coloured and have a number for the number of spouses.
> 
> >I only use the Never Married on the Individual Information 
> Screen when 
> >I'm certain that someone didn't marry or have children - no known 
> >sexual relationship.
> 
> >For research purposes I'd like to be able to tick this for 
> people who 
> >died young but for reporting I only want it for those who lived to 
> >marriageable age. It's obvious in our culture that a child 
> of 4 never married.
> 
> >I don't think there's a bug here - I haven't noticed it and 
> I'm sure we 
> >would have heard more about it by now as the current build has been 
> >around for over 2 months.
> >It may be time you use the File > File Maintenance > Check/Repair as 
> >sometimes indexes get a bit scrambled.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> Cheers,
> Cathy
> 
> At 06:23 3/01/2005, you wrote:
> 
> >>Still experimenting I have found that there isn't any 
> consistency with 
> >>people who are left with defaulted married in the person 1 field of 
> >>the marriage screen.  In reports some of them are coming 
> thru as "John
> married"
> >>but others have nothing what so ever written about their 
> marriage status.
> >>In one case I have a birth year in others I have birth and 
> death with 
> >>ages at death between 50-60, but nothing shows for marriage status.
> >
> >>This definitely seems to need work.
> >
> >>Karen V. Sipe


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