Many persons use Devonshire, but Devon is the proper name. There is a Duke of Devonshire whose house, Chatsworth, is in Derbyshire. For the list and location of all English counties prior to 1974 see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_counties_of_England
There are also other locations. Generally, if a county has a town by the same name, the county name ends in shire.


Lloyd Horrocks (grandfather from Lancashire)
Grove City, Ohio, USA

At 08:32 PM 04/21/2005 +1000, you wrote:
Jennie,
I agree basically with Cathy's comments about commas, and should
clarify my statement above about adding commas for missing elements. I
only insert intermediate commas for a location in a country where I
would normally have, say a county, and don't know in a particular case
which county the town is in. So I'd have "Somewhere,,England" and then
when I find it is in Devonshire it would become "Somewhere,
Devonshire, England".  I use this to remind me to sort out which
"Somewhere" it is. It can also help when sorting in odd ways to look
for duplicates, or for finding all the locations in county X.

However, it's generally more important to have reports looking good,
and that means either using in reports short location names which
you've entered omitting the intermediate commas, or always omitting
them in the long location names.

Rob

On 4/21/05, Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Jennie,
> You simply need to add locations from smallest to largest if you always end
> with the country and then sort the location list from right to left - and
> the countries sort alphabetically whether you have 3 or 4 or 6 or 9
> location fields.
>
> Extra commas for non-existent fields, just to get your database to line up,
> are misleading in reports. You can remove extra leading commas but not
> internal commas.
>
> Cheers,
> Cathy
>
> At 03:18 21/04/2005, you wrote:
>
> >Another thought on the locations hierarchy and how it
> >should be used, especially considering users who have
> >relatives/ancestors in several countries.
> >
> >Why do we as genealogists need hierarchies?  We need
> >to know geographic and political subdivisions, to
> >locate places, on maps and in person.  And to search
> >in the correct jurisdiction for records, especially
> >vital records.  And probably other reasons, too.
> >
> >The Legacy default is US-oriented: city, county,
> >state, country.  I bet that most of us, especially if
> >we don't have very many relatives or ancestors abroad,
> >don't fill in the country.
> ><snip>
> >I have a little knowledge of Ireland.  I have been
> >putting a comma to separate the first field, the town
> >name in the second, the county in the third, and
> >Ireland in the fourth.  That's just the way it
> >happened.  I could have put town in the first, county
> >in the second, left the third one blank, and Ireland
> >in the fourth.  In fact, I think that I will go back
> >and do that.
> >
> >Either way, Ireland sorts with USA, which is what I
> >intended.
> >
> >Hope this helps . . .
> >
> >Jennie
>
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