----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Weait" <rich...@weait.com>
To: "Licensing and other legal discussions."
<legal-talk@openstreetmap.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence Implementation plan -
declinesornon-responses
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 12:14 PM, 80n <80n...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:44 PM, David Groom <revi...@pacific-rim.net>
wrote:
1) Those who do not want to, or can not. agree to the CT's and make an
decision not to accept the CT's.
2) Those previous mappers who are no longer active and so won't even
have
made a choice between accepting or not.
In the case of group (1) it seems wrong to me to disregard their wishes
and just leave the data in.
It would be equally wrong to disregard the wishes of those in case 2.
Being
uncontactable is not a justification for abusing a person's rights.
OSM used to be very respectful of other people's copyright. It used to be
one of the values that was held very highly. But now it seems to think
that
it can just trample all over the rights of the people who built it.
I'm ashamed that OSM is no longer the body that it once was. It has lost
my
respect.
I neglected to address those who don't respond either way in my
earlier reply but I'd expect to treat their contributions with the
same care as the decliners.
80n have you presumed I had malice where I only failed to address a
sub-question? Thanks.
I don't see where David suggested anything that would deserve your
ire, either.
Even if you disagree with what either David or I said, you would paint
the entire OSM project with your loss of respect and shame, rather
than engaging in the discussion? I'm not sure I see what it is that
you are reacting to in such a visceral way.
Obviously I'm not wishing to speak for 80n, but one thing which gives me
cause for concern is the following comment, which might imply that even if
you haven't agreed to the CT's your data may still be left in OSM.
"There's also some stuff we can do and I'm not strictly sure of this, but
below a certain threshold of the amount of data you have edited and also the
type of data you have edited there's no creativity involved, so it's
automatically in the public domain ....so we can automatically 'move you
over'" [1].
Of course I may have misunderstood what Steve means. And I do appreciate
the comment was prefaced by "I'm not strictly sure of this", and also that
at minute 30:11 Steve said "we're going to have to remove their data"
However when the Chairman of OSM appears to give contradictory comments
about what will happen to the data of people who have not agreed the CT's it
does at least give some cause for concern.
David
[1] Steve Coast : Keynote speech to SOTM.US at about minute 31:10.
http://vimeo.com/channels/128913#14392616
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