Thanks Simon I looked for the relevant list at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists and tried this one. Will write to legal-questi...@osmfoundation.org instead then.
/Jan Erik On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch> wrote: > > Jan Erik > > As the name of this list says it is "legal talk" (aka yapping without > consequence) ... not "get-help-from-the-OSMF". The proper places to > address are plastered all over openstreetmap.org and osmfoundation.org: > le...@osmfoundation.org (policy issues and similar) or > legal-questi...@osmfoundation.org (for specific use questions). > > The session at SOTM-US (I wasn't there so I only have 2nd hand accounts) > seems to have mainly been the usual fairy tales with an agenda and can > be safely (and should be) ignored. (That is the polite version.) > > We currently get at least a handful of enquiries to legal-questions per > week, sometimes per day, they typically get a response within 24 hours > (obviously the proper places can easily be found). Most can be resolved > by pointing to the relevant published guidelines > > - http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License > > and > > - http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Community_Guidelines > > there are some that take longer to close, but that is rare. Inquires > range from cinema and TV productions wanting to use OSM to new business > wanting to use OSM data in novel ways. > > Naturally we cannot be an Ersatz-counsel for businesses trying to get > their ideas vetted (this has nothing to do with being lawyers or not > btw), but we can give pointers to what will and what will not work. > > To your questions: > > 1) yes, see above > > 2) if you are generating the stats data on the fly there is no database > and nothing to share (the polygons are naturally derived from OSM and > subject to the ODbL but will likely fall under the trivial > transformation guideline). If you are storing the generated stats in a > database and publishing them in principle you should probably make the > statistical dataset available (given that you are already publishing it, > that shouldn't be an issue) on request. > > 3) the problem is that doing it in the proposed way is technical > nonsense so I'm not sure if it makes any sense to burn brain power to > discuss it further (OSM object IDs are not stable references). > > Simon > > Am 26.06.2015 um 09:34 schrieb Jan Erik Solem: >> Hi legal-talk people >> >> We’re thinking of starting to use OSM data at Mapillary >> (http://www.mapillary.com/) to improve our service to users. At SotMUS >> earlier in the month I heard several speakers say in connection to >> commercial applications, something like “as long as you don’t modify >> OSM data you are fine”. Which I take they meant that you don’t have to >> ODbL your database and internal data. >> >> 1) Are there any official guidelines for this? >> >> 2) Specifically we want to use shapes for city/regional/country >> borders to compute stats for our contributors. We are currently using >> a public domain set that is a LOT worse than OSM and would be great to >> switch. We will not edit OSM data in any way, but store >> shapes/polygons and use for stats lookups. Can we import OSM shapes >> without requiring ODbL of our data? >> >> 3) We’re working on a photo routing feature. In the future it would be >> awesome to store the closest OSM road segment ids to our photo >> sequences in our internal database (either a specific routing db or >> our main db). Does storing ids as a property of some objects in our db >> require ODbL release of our data? >> >> Sorry for the long email and the many questions. We want to do this >> right and prefer a conservative approach as we’re fairly new to OSM. >> >> yours, >> /Jan Erik >> >> _______________________________________________ >> legal-talk mailing list >> legal-talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk >> > > > _______________________________________________ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > _______________________________________________ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk