Hi Ivan, I would suggest getting in touch with Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team Indonesia. They could probably help in facilitate of permission.
[email protected] is the best way to reach them. Best, -Kate On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Ivan Garcia <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks a lot for the answer Simon, really complete. > > Ivan. > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Simon Poole <[email protected]> wrote: > >> In general the CC-by licences require downstream attribution that we >> can't provide for any sensible meaning of the word, so you will need >> specific permission in any case, the other part is that the 4.0 licences >> try to cater for sui generis databases and, IMHO-only, that comes out >> rather wrong. >> >> What complicates your specific case even more is that you will find a >> wide range of opinions on if tracing from imagery even creates a >> derivative work (which you need to square with national regulations and >> case law). >> >> The best action is to sidestep the above mentioned can of worms and try >> and get explicit permission, preferably with >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/GettingPermission#Letter_Template3 >> (the first two letter templates are missing some key points IMHO and >> while simpler are probably not really enough). >> >> Note the letter would need some adaptation in your case since we are >> referring to data derived from the imagery, not the imagery itself. >> >> Simon >> >> Am 13.07.2015 um 12:54 schrieb Ivan Garcia: >> > Hi Simon. Thanks for the answer. >> > >> > Just an extra quesiton, doesn't a CC-BY license already allows >> > derivative work of any kind as long as the author is mentioned? Why >> > would an extra permission for that be required? >> > >> > Best Regards. >> > Ivan. >> > >> > On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Simon Poole <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > Ivan >> > >> > The problem is that it is a legal can of worms. I would suggest >> simply >> > asking for explicit permission, or at least formal confirmation that >> > tracing from the imagery does not create a derivative work and that >> the >> > government has no rights in such vectorized data. >> > >> > It is, as you may have seen from previous discussions, not clear if >> the >> > CC 4.0 licences are compatible (with the exception of CC0 naturally) >> > with the ODbL and this is likely not an issue that will be resolved >> > short term. >> > >> > Simon >> > >> > Am 08.07.2015 um 14:48 schrieb Ivan Garcia: >> > > Hi everybody, >> > > the government of Indonesia recently opened a Open Data portal >> > > http://data.go.id/ offering some official WMS imagery under >> CC-BY 4.0 >> > > license. >> > > >> > > Would that license be enought to be used under JOSM to trace ways >> and >> > > POIs for OSM? >> > > >> > > Thanks in advance. >> > > Ivan. >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > legal-talk mailing list >> > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected] >> > >> > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk >> > > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > legal-talk mailing list >> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk >> > >> > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > legal-talk mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > >
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