Tom looks like I misread Fred a little, apologies.

Steve

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote:
> 
> Martin,
> 
> On 10/14/2015 11:18 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>    frankly, if there was a halfway usable repository of open
>>    addresses that could be merged with OSM for those who want it, and if
>>    open addresses become available for regions where OSM already has
>>    addresses, I'd not be opposed to dropping the addresses from OSM in
>>    those regions.
>> 
>> Really? I've always thought our user's ground truth would be trumping
>> data we'd import, i.e. we'd request from importers not to drop features
>> that are already there, but to conflate in the opposite way, drop from
>> the external data set the stuff that we already have, before importing
>> the rest. Did I read you right? Can you explain why you changed your mind?
> 
> You read me right and Michal did too.
> 
> Yes, I always said that we would want to be able to import Open Data at
> the processing stage (i.e. into Nominatim etc.) instead of importing it
> into OSM, so Michal is right.
> 
> This of course has the drawback that you can't edit the government data
> sets, and this is why Tom Lee would prefer to import the government data
> sets into OSM to make them accessible for editing.
> 
> To which I replied that I would prefer to have this data in a non-OSM
> editable repository, rather than in OSM, because I feel that there is a
> disparity between the amount of address data and the number of mappers
> actually interested; I would prefer if those who want a crowd-sourced
> address data set would not burden OSM with that. Tom wrote that there's
> not enough manpower in openaddresses to actually edit the data, and I
> cautioned him against assuming that the OSM manpower would automatically
> be available for editing addresses.
> 
> Now if there *was* a crowd-sourced address collection project, then I
> would not object to OSM deferring to that for addresses. If, say region
> X made their address data openly available, it would be possible to
> conflate that with the (supposedly better) stuff we already have in OSM,
> add the result to the crowd-sourced address collection project, and drop
> it from OSM. If the alternatives are to either add the gov't data to OSM
> or move existing OSM address data into a separate project, I'd clearly
> prefer the latter, although I recognize that there might be people who
> would like to keep "their" address data in OSM. It is something that
> would have to be discussed.
> 
> It might be possible to piggyback the crowd-sourced address collection
> project onto OSM  but I would really think that if crowd-sourced address
> collection is not viable as a project in its own right (because of lack
> of people willing to give away their spare time to improve it), then it
> will not be viable in OSM either - only that the situation would be less
> obvious.
> 
> Bye
> Frederik
> 
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