On 13/02/13 22:07, Wraithan (Chris McDonald) wrote:
> It isn't a case of unacceptable. It is a case of standing out and being
> different in ways that one is not aiming to be. Showing up at a laid
> back conference like BarCamp wearing a suit when you go to run a session
> is not unacceptable but definitely does not fit in either.

I think Will's very interesting data shows that you won't be standing
out too much. :-) Perhaps it's the equivalent of wearing chinos instead
of jeans.

> It is one of the points we were making. And if this is the best we can
> do then at least it is better than completely tying our hands and making
> us use MPL for everything. Part of our hiring process and fit for
> Mozilla is that we are good community members. We have strong ties to
> our communities we come from and as such want to continue to maintain
> their status quo rather than forcing our corporations ideas in.

Hence the discussion on changing the licensing policy. The flipside of
your point above is that we, as a respected open source project, want to
be promoting responsible licensing practice. We need to read the signs
of the times, which indicate that the software patent wars are going to
get worse before they get better. Where Mozilla leads, others follow
(see e.g. LibreOffice's adoption of the MPL 2). Which is why the
licensing team feels strongly that we should, going forward, only use
licenses with explicit patent clauses - because it helps us, and
encourages others to do the same.

Allowing Apache 2.0 into the mix is an attempt to do that, and also do
our best to meet the requirements of some communities for non-copyleft
licensing. Mozilla's community license is the MPL 2, but we understand
that not all the work Mozilla does is solely part of our own community.

> The email I replied to was not CC'd to any of the webdev mailing lists
> unlike the previous ones. Which is why I noted and fixed that.

Which has now forked the discussion into two places, because no
Followup-To was set :-| In the future, perhaps posting a pointer to
where it's happening might work better?

Gerv

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