On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:39 AM, Seth Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Terry Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> >> I used FreeMind before I started using leo, and I really don't think >> the 'mindmap' is significantly different to leo's tree with clones. >> Neither one is a truly cyclic graph of the kind you need for >> generalized networks and RDF type applications. Have a look at >> http://cmap.ihmc.us/conceptmap.html which is a free Concept Map tool. >> I think that mindmaps are a sort of informal light weight version of >> Concept Maps, which are a more formal / full system of knowledge >> mapping. And they involved cyclic graphs. > > > > I'm not interested in mindmapping for the purpose of full knowledge > mapping, > (in the sense of sophisticated or "fully-specified" representations of knowledge, whether graphically or in data structure -- just the mindmapping interface as described below. I think the sophisticated areas you mention are important, but I am interested in working in a certain way, that's facilitated by the mindmapping interface) > I want it for an interface that's radial and allows grouping. What I want > is an interface with a central concept node, that distributes branches > radially around the center, then lets me drag those nodes around to hook > them onto other nodes as children. Plus clones. The radial arrangement > represents a lack of linear ordering assumptions a la brainstorming. > There's a good explanation of mindmapping in the introductory paragraph at > wikipedia: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_map > > For me, other functions follow on from the interface as such -- and there > are many functions that would make the mindmapping interface more useful, to > the extent of working as a central metaphor/interface of an operating > system. I think an existing mindmapping application that adds clones would > move quickly in that direction. > > Radial is the word. -- not stacked nodes on either side of a central node, > bowtie-style, as in Freemind -- though Freemind is what I use right now. I > used to use Mind Manager, but that's proprietary and I can't share mindmaps > and encourage their use as freely with that. > > > I might try and make a graph style editor for nodes in leo-qt. I glued >> a tk-graph editor on to leo-tk, but it wasn't very pretty (the >> graphed.py plugin). I made a simple graph editor on a GTK canvas and >> it really wasn't hard, so I don't suppose it will be hard in qt either. >> >> Having said all that, you say "...key to moving towards >> something more like an operating system", and not knowing what you mean >> by that, it may be you have some other aspect of mindmaps in mind. To >> me leo seems much closer to being an "operating system" than FreeMind >> didn, but (a) I don't like Java, and (b) I haven't looked at freemind >> for a few years, so that may be why. > > > > Yes, Leo is indeed closer to an operating system. I think mindmapping > would move towards that, and Leo would gain greater adoption, if a good > mindmapping interface were provided for the Leo data structure. For one > thing, that would instantly become a dominant competitor for FreeMind, which > is much loved. I would predict accolades from all the programmers in the > free software community and a lot of buzz for both areas -- Leo style > editing and mindmapping. > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
