Wow, I feel like the Rabbi in the following joke:

You are talking way above my head, I'll study this thread and
try to come up with something to contribute. In the mean time, enjoy.

http://www.awordinyoureye.com/jokes83rdset.html

(#1705) The Pope and the Rabbi [Author unknown] Several centuries ago, the Pope
decreed that all the Jews had to convert or leave Italy. There was a huge outcry
from the Jewish community, so the Pope offered a deal. He would have a religious
debate with the leader of the Jewish community. If the Jews won, they could stay
in Italy, if the Pope won, they would have to leave.  The Jewish people met and
picked an aged but wise Rabbi Moshe, to represent them in the debate. However,
as Moshe spoke no Italian and the Pope spoke no Yiddish, they all agreed that it
would be a "silent" debate.  On the chosen day, the Pope and Rabbi Moshe sat
opposite each other for a full minute before the Pope raised his hand and showed
three fingers. Rabbi Moshe looked back and raised one finger.  Next the Pope
waved his finger around his head. Rabbi Moshe pointed to the ground where he
sat. The Pope then brought out a communion wafer and a chalice of wine. Rabbi
Moshe pulled out an apple. With that, the Pope stood up and declared that he was
beaten, that Rabbi Moshe was too clever and that the Jews could stay.  Later,
the Cardinals met with the Pope, asking what had happened. The Pope said, "First
I held up three fingers to represent the Trinity. He responded by holding up one
finger to remind me that there is still only one God common to both our beliefs.
Then, I waved my finger to show him that God was all around us. He responded by
pointing to the ground to show that God was also right here with us. I pulled
out the wine and wafer to show that God absolves us of all our sins. He pulled
out an apple to remind me of the original sin. He had me beaten and I could not
continue." Meanwhile the Jewish community were gathered around Rabbi Moshe. "How
did you win the debate?" they asked.  "I haven't a clue," said Moshe. "First he
said to me that we had three days to get out of Italy, so I said to him, ‘up
yours!’ Then he tells me that the whole country would be cleared of Jews and I
said to him, we're staying right here." "And then what," asked a woman.  "Who
knows?" said Moshe, "He took out his lunch so I took out mine."

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Seth Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Kent Tenney <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Seth Johnson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> Okay, I think I have a sense of where you're situated.  What do those 5 key
>>> components of the address represent?
>>
>> They are a set of child indexes 0-5-0-0-1
>
>
> Are you actually doing state transition management with persistent objects
> like what Eoin pointed to re Rich Hickey?  Hickey stores the "diffs" between
> instances of unique "values" under one "identity" (his special way of thinking
> of variables/data structures) over time, as tree chains like this, holding
> just the part of the structure that has changed.  This lets him treat "values"
> as "the whole structure at a moment of time," which is a useful concept in a
> concurrent execution environment, rather than using traditional data
> structures whose individual pieces of data could be changed independently by
> different processes.  Rather than copying the whole structure, he virtualizes
> distinct value instances by pointing at "diff" chains like yours for the part
> that has changed, plus a pointer to the rest of the original structure that
> hasn't changed.
>
> In any case, key chains like you use could be stored like any other tree in my
> architecture.  That could become an implementation of unique values under
> identity a la Hickey, I guess.
>
> I made my system open to diverse blocking approaches -- I'm trying to
> remember, but mostly all I recall clearly is that you request "occasions" from
> the authoritative host servers of the state in which you're working -- and I
> didn't design it as a way to hold outlines as snapshots in time, as part of an
> approach to concurrent execution in a particular way like Hickey does.  (My
> focus tends to be more on generality than "containment.")
>
> Seth
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