On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Edward K. Ream <edream...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:39 PM, <karho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ​> ​
>>> Does the solution that you suggest require raw HTML code?
>>>
>>> ​Yes.  I just did an experiment, and you must cut/paste real html.
>>>
>>
>> That's very cumbersome.
>>
>
> ​Sorry, but the html contains essential information that is not present
> when you simply copy and paste text from the browser.  There is no way that
> Leo, or any other program, can magically recover the missing data.
>

Well, perhaps not all of the HTML code will be preserved when you copy
something from a webpage by simple selection, like you say, but this is no
problem at all. What is needed is preserving at least the basic formatting,
like font size and possibly color. By the way, I tried copying and pasting
from a webpage into a Gtk-based environment (the Cherrytree PIM), and a lot
of the copied content is preserved. Even tables!
Now, why can't Leo do that?


> Happily, "casual" users don't have html debugging tools installed, so they
> can get the full html by using the "show source" menu item in the browser.
> This shouldn't be too odious.
>

I know that, and it was precisely Ctrl+U (show source) that I had in mind
when I mentioned reading the source. But come on, do you mean to tell me
that if I wanted to copy some text from a webpage, I should view the
source, find the relevant part in the HTML code, and copy it to the
clipboard?!?
Even if it is not technically difficult, it is very cumbersome. Too much
for anyone, I believe, especially if you have to deal with a lot of texts.

Some PIM programs even offer a send-to option integrated right into the
system shell, or into the browser's right-click menu, so that a selected
text can be directly sent to the program and stored there, without any fuss
at all. And Leo does not even provide decent support for HTML text pasted
manually from the clipboard?!?

If Leo is to be taken seriously as a PIM tool (and as I understand it,
being a PIM tool is one of its main purposes), it really needs a better
support of the formatted text.
Sure, Leo started as a programming tool, supporting only plain text, but we
are no longer living in a plain-text era.

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