Maybe a stupid question, but where do I find the plugin? It doesn't load 
from the standard GitHub repo.

Rob...............


On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 6:04:54 PM UTC-5, Terry Brown wrote:
>
> Hmm, well, at risk of sounding like a broken record, you could use the 
> backlinks plugin, the attached image shows A and B in their "native" or 
> "outline" relationship (or lack thereof) in the tree, then in backlinks 
> (middle pane) with a link via a node "blocking_dependency" which is a rich 
> relationship description with "severity" and "description" components, and 
> in the bottom pane in graphcanvas plugin, which uses backlinks for its 
> relationships (they're two interfaces to the same info.). Sorry about the 
> colors, but the white arrow is the parent->child relationship of Nodes Y 
> and B, and the black arrows run through the "blocking_dependency" 
> relationship node as described.
>
> You could use the same approach in place of clones for gathering nodes 
> relevant to a particular bug or something, just link all the nodes of 
> interest to one otherwise unrelated "issue" node, which perhaps resides in 
> a list of such issues.  I'd tend to use bookmarks plugin instead, although 
> I'm realizing how much redundancy there is between backlinks and 
> bookmarks... hmm, they're not really the same, phew ;-)
>
> I'm not sure how tractable the API is for using backlinks in scripts, 
> there's some support I think, and of course more can be added if there's 
> demand.
>
> Cheers -Terry
>
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> *From:* Largo84 <lar...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
> *To:* leo-editor <leo-e...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>> 
> *Cc:* terry_...@yahoo.com <javascript:>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:36 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Attributes vs. Relationships
>
> Yes, Terry, that's a good description of what I envision. Is that possible 
> now? If so, I don't see the mechanism. How (where) would you create that 
> link?
>
> Rob.............
>
> On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 4:25:13 PM UTC-5, Terry Brown wrote:
>
> Something I think you run into here is nodes vs. edges (connections) 
> carrying information.  So two nodes are related:
>
>     A -> B
>
> now you want to describe the relationship, "implements" (the "source 
> order" view) or "documents" or "todo_item" (issue / ticket), whatever.
>
> Ok, so somehow you store those different flavors of relationship. But now 
> maybe you want to record priority, percent complete etc. on the "todo_item" 
> relation, or build documentation for different contexts into the 
> "documents" relationship.  Suddenly describing a relationship needs a 
> complex data structure..., maybe some hierarchy... 
>
> So you end up in a situation where you could effectively use a node to 
> describe the relationship:
>
> A -> x -> B
>
> where if x is a node with its own children etc., there's no restriction on 
> how complex the description of the relationship between A and B can be.
>
> And maybe you also have
>
> M -> x -> N and S -> x -> T where the relationships between A and B, M and 
> N, and S and T are all the same and described by the same node 'x', so 'x' 
> is a collecting point for nodes related in a particular way.
>
> So Rob I'm not disagreeing with you or even perhaps responding to what 
> you're saying directly, just saying that I've seen "adding descriptive 
> elements to connections / edges / relationships" evolve into "using nodes 
> to describe connections" in the past.
>
> Cheers -Terry
>
>
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> *From:* Largo84 <lar...@gmail.com>
> *To:* leo-editor <leo-e...@googlegroups.com> 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2016 2:35 PM
> *Subject:* Attributes vs. Relationships
>
> I'm following with much interest the recent discussions on data structures 
> and possible new directions for Leo. Sorry in advance if this new post 
> hashes old ground, but it seemed to be somewhat of a different approach (or 
> question).
>
> It would be really cool to better expose the uA's and make them truly 
> useful. However, I see them as merely metadata (like tags in media files). 
> What would also be useful is to describe in some meaningful way the 
> *nature* of a data relationship between elements (objects or 'nodes' in 
> the Leo sense). Looking at the wikipedia article on DAGs 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_acyclic_graph>, I see the 
> directed vectors (arrows), but don't see how those describe what the 
> 'nature' of the relationship is between objects, just a direction (of 
> course, I may be missing something obvious).
>
> As an example, consider how MusicBrainz <https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Work> 
> describes advanced relationships (ARs). A music track (like on a CD) may 
> have a relationship with a composition (work) and that relationship is 
> described in a somewhat 'symmetrical' way, such that the given work is 
> 'related' to multiple recordings and the track may be related to multiple 
> compositions (eg. medleys). These relationship 'descriptors' are 
> directional which prevents recursion problems.
>
> It seems to me that the only relationship inherent in the Leo data model 
> is one of Parent/Child (and maybe Sibling). I suppose that's what makes it 
> a DAG. Is it possible to describe other arbitrary types of relationships 
> between objects (nodes) that goes beyond simply assigning a uA (tag) to a 
> node. Maybe that uA may also be a relationship 'type' that creates a 'link' 
> between two or more nodes. Maybe this also creates opportunities to create 
> multiple 'views' based on relationship types other than the native 
> Parent/Child.
>
> Rob......
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