Thanks for your testimony John. I have given some similar testimony [1]. I'm trying to bring some Leo ideas to the Pharo live coding environment by prototyping them and some other back here by discussing on the list.

[1] http://leoeditor.com/testimonials.html#offray-luna-cardenas

The idea of outlining as emergent order is a powerful way of dealing with our own cognitive limits, not only for the programmer, but for anyone that wants to make literate computing on complex matters (scientists, activists, journalists, students, teachers, etc.). The idea of having a development environment behind the notebook experience is being explored by Org Mode with emacs and now by Jupyter with Jupyter Lab and Grafoscopio with Pharo. I wonder how we can deal with complexity when we combine this emergent order of outlining with live coding and broader dev frameworks. Precisely today I was making some mind maps about this:

This are interesting times for ideas crosspollination and exploration.

Cheers,

Offray



On 03/03/17 10:11, john lunzer wrote:
Warning: This is a testimonial, sorry.

Lately I've been thinking about programming in general. My thoughts have centered on the limits of the human brain to understand computer programs. This was triggered by watching Inventing on Principle <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUv66718DII>. It's a daunting multifaceted concept which I'm sure people spend their entire lives pondering.

Most recently I've been focusing on one facet, abstraction and program "units". I define a "unit" as a part of the program that is considered a piece onto itself which can be labeled and referred to as a whole. Perhaps, as a daily Leo user, this is easy to think about because Leo does its best to coerce programmers and programs into looking at programming through this lens.

Most tools do not ignore this concept all together. Most programming environments have some sort of "outline" window which allows you to view the structure of a program at a higher level. As I have experienced it this "outline" view is always dictated by the features of a language (ex. outline divided up at module, class, function levels). In addition most tools incorporate "code folding" to help a programmer focus on language specific programming units (again, ex. folding at class and function definitions).

Leo takes this concept to its limit. Leo offers language agnostic abstraction at arbitrary levels. It allows a programmer to structure their program outside of the confines of the programming paradigms of the language they're programming in. Of course it still helps to use the language specific "units" as a guide, in fact this is what Leo does upon import to create an initial outline structure from programs originating outside of Leo.

I can't ignore the freedom of arbitrary abstraction, and I've come to rely upon it so much that I struggle to use non-Leo environments. It is well known that the human brain has a limited working memory. The act of programming stretches working memory to it's limit. Leo provides an environment in which a program can seamlessly be restructured to fit within the bounds of a programmers individual working memory.

I realize this is a "why" and not a "how" and that this doesn't help anyone get better acquainted with Leo. But, as a programmer if you've ever felt frustrated with the organizational constructs of the language you're working in you might be surprised to realize that after using Leo it wasn't the language that was the problem, but a lack of tools to organize your programs in a way that makes sense to /you/.
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