Hi,
On 21/03/17 09:06, Edward K. Ream wrote:
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:33 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'm trying to bring some Leo ideas to the Pharo live coding
environment by prototyping them and some other back here by
discussing on the list.
Excellent. One less thing that I have to do. Hehe.
He! There is a lot of learning on the "do your idea by yourself"
pedagogy ;-).
The idea of outlining as emergent order is a powerful way of
dealing with our own cognitive limits, not only for the
programmer, but for anyone that wants to make literate computing
on complex matters (scientists, activists, journalists, students,
teachers, etc.). The idea of having a development environment
behind the notebook experience is being explored by Org Mode with
emacs and now by Jupyter with Jupyter Lab and Grafoscopio with
Pharo. I wonder how we can deal with complexity when we combine
this emergent order of outlining with live coding and broader dev
frameworks. Precisely today I was making some mind maps about this:
...
[These] are interesting times for ideas cross-pollination and
exploration.
Yes indeed. Many thanks for these links and your persistence. At
last I understand your general idea.
Thanks to you for Leo and this live and constructive community. Ideas
are difficult to express by mail... sometimes is easier to build your
own software and send the link to the mailing list :-).
As I see it now, the question is always, "how easy is it to emulate
feature A in environment B?". It's pretty easy to set up an @button
node in Leo so that it emulates Pharo's instant execution model.
Whether it's possible to get access to agile visualization in the
python world is another question.
Agile visualization and live coding are game changers for me, so much
that Pharo became my platform to express/combine ideas. Jupyter is
exploring that path in some way for the Python word with interesting
ideas and a lot of attention, but also with a complex multilayered
(fractured?) stack behind. Hopefully Leo will provide clarity there also.
Cheers,
Offray
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