On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < [email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for the links. Such bold claim sparked an interesting conversation, > despite the fact that the blog post author didn't knew any of the outli > > ners and mind mappers software that were presented in the discussion > thread. I particularly enjoyed the Engelbarts ideas mixing outlining with > hypertext[1] and their current incarnations by the research team[2] and > Seco, which contains several ideas from Grafoscopio (even mixing > mathematica interactive nodes, with Smalltalk ideas), but is implemented in > Java and exists from 2004[3]. > > [1] http://dougengelbart.org/about/augment.html > Great link. The further links on that page are also excellent. From OHS (Open Hyperdocument System) <http://www.dougengelbart.org/about/ohs.html>: >The baseline requirements which Doug Engelbart outlined as a starting point for OHS are still *largely missing* from today's information technology. > For example, at the top of his list has remained the ability to link directly to any point in any file. This feature is absolutely essential to enable fine-grained browsing, sharing, connecting the dots, interacting with and editing the contents. Some video platforms such as YouTube have recently added the ability to right click at any point in a video to Copy Link* to this point in the video*. This is a great improvement, but an adhoc approach. The vast majority of our knowledgesphere, including and especially the world wide web which made *hyperlinking* a household word, has not offered a reliable and consistent way to identify, link to, jump to or otherwise address a specific phrase or paragraph, section or multi-media object within a file. Leo certainly should support this more gracefully. [2] https://vimeo.com/81238285 There are some very cool features in this video. Englebart was way way ahead of its time. The various links, including transclusions, are nifty. Org mode has text filters, but this is a programming concept, not a UI feature. Recent work gives Leo cross-file links inside other .leo files. There are interesting differences between viewspecs and Leo's clone-find commands. Viewspecs are more general and dynamic. Otoh, the results of Leo's clone-find commands can be manipulated further, something not can't be done with viewspecs. Perhaps Leo's clone-find commands could use other "filters" besides text matches. But Leo's find commands are already insanely complicated. Anyway, there is a lot to think about in this video. I recommend to all Leo devs. [3] https://github.com/bolerio/seco The good part seems to be the Comparison between Beaker/IPython/Jupyter <https://github.com/bolerio/seco#comparison-with-beakeripythonjupyter>. I can't recommend the Mathematica UI. Many thanks for these links. If you can hop on an a plane to Madison Wisconsin, we could drive up to Ashland Wisconsin for the sprint ;-) Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
