On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 9:37:43 AM UTC-5, andyjim wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 11:35:05 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote:
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>> I've been spending some time with my bookmark manager again,
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>> Thomas, is your bookmarks manager available to 'the general public'?  I 
> am terrible with bookmarks. No organization at all, and (after taking up 
> valuable time counting them) I would blush to report how many I have open 
> right now.
>

I would love to say yes.  I have no objection, and I'd be happy to have 
more people using it.  But using it takes some setup. You have to get 
certain batch files pointing to the right directories, etc.  How about if I 
work with you to do that?  Limitations are:

1)  It works best with Firefox bookmarks.  Other browsers can export to the 
same format, but they are organized a little differently, and I have had to 
hand-edit the export files for them to work with the bookmarks manager.  I 
could work with you to fix up the bookmarks if you want to move them over 
to Firefox.

2. While you can add and edit data to the resources (the URLs) - like 
notes, other URLs, etc, - the process for saving these annotations is very 
clunky.  That's because browsers themselves won't let you save to the file 
system as a security measure.

3. I *think* that by using Firefox, you can use the manager without running 
a web server.  Most other browsers won't let you do it (they all worked 
without a server back when I developed it, in the 2003-2004 time frame, but 
no longer).  So if you don't want to use Firefox, we'll have to set you up 
with a web server on your computer.

4. If you didn't save your bookmarks into a series of folders, then the 
program won't be of so much help, because it uses the folder names to 
figure out the links that make the system especially good for serendipity.  
You would only have a flat list of resources.  All you could do would be to 
search them for a text phrase in the title.

OTOH, if you did use folders for saving the bookmarks, you are going to 
love the thing.  And the various displays and computed linking arrangements 
built in might stimulate some useful thoughts for the kind of user 
interface features that a zettelkasten might profit from.  Once it's set up 
and running, it's very easy to use, and it performs very quickly.

Oh, yes, and  it can read files from specified directories in the files 
system, too, if they contain URL links or files of some types.  It will, 
for example, treat a folder full of Internet Explorer bookmarks just like 
the bookmarks from your browser.  This can be very handy.  

Sometimes I think that if I could make the process of saving your 
annotations easy, we'd have maybe 3/4 of what we (or I) want in a 
zettelkasten.  But maybe not.  In my thinking, a zettel would be 
represented by its URL.  That's all the bookmark manager needs.

So if you want to try it out, check the gmail account that you used for 
private messages.  I finally found the message that you sent me, and 
responded to it a few days ago.  It has a better email address for me.  
Write me there.

Tom

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