HI Brad, I was thinking in combining something like the outline capabilities of Leo with the interactive capabilities of IPython/Jupyter, and I explored such possibility, but I found a lot of incidental complexity in the Python ecosystem[1], so I finally developed a simpler prototype for interactive outlining, called Grafoscopio[2], using the Pharo live coding/programming/computing environment [3]
I think, as you, that there is a lot of potential for such interactive outlining, for complex reproducible research documents, and you can see something like that in the Org Mode world using Babel [4][4a]. I did my own prototype about Panama Papers as reproducible research, as you can see in [5], using pretty non-complicated tech stack (described there). Regarding reproducibility in a time frame of decades, you can make this already with a Smalltalk, thanks to the image concept (which is there from 70's). You can froze the state of execution of your object in the image and reopen them a decade later, as I did with the simulation I made for my Masters. It was as I left it in my master presentation a decade ago see [6]. I propose to use Pharo/Smalltalk in tandem with functional package managers (Guix/Nix alike), so you can have a pretty reproducible environment and be more agile that Jupyter/Python community without the baggage of incidental complexity. Cheers, Offray [1] http://mutabit.com/offray/static/blog/output/posts/grafoscopio-idea-and-initial-progress.html [2] https://mutabit.com/grafoscopio/en.html [3] https://pharo.org/ [4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dljNabciEGg&feature=youtu.be [4a] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK3fij-D1G8 [5] https://mutabit.com/offray/blog/en/entry/panama-papers-1 [6] https://twitter.com/offrayLC/status/927313455543091200 On 8/04/20 2:46 p. m., Brad wrote: > I use Jupyter notebooks for a lot of my analyses. > Though I realize a lot more is possible, my personal preference is not > to use this platform beyond exploratory analyses where one can embed > relatively short snippets of code into the notebook. > > I know that one could zip a directory with Jupyter notebooks and data > to satisfy some of my requirements, but it seemed to me that with > Leo's very versatile structure, and the capability to naturally > incorporate meta data in a structured manner, might offer some advantages. > > Per Marcel's perceptive comments, I understand that Leo has only a > fraction of the users of Jupyter notebooks. However, that doesn't mean > that Jupyter notebooks are more capable for this task. > > This a hard problem and I was just suggesting that an 'out of the box' > solution using something like Leo might be worth considering. > > Kind regards, > Brad > > > > On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 6:14:14 PM UTC-6, Thomas Passin wrote: > > It's interesting to me, anyway. Could you talk about why you > haven't found Jupyter notebooks to be satisfactory? On other > threads we have been discussing whether Leo, with the > Viewrendered3 plugin, might be able to do much of what Jupyter > does, and have some advantages besides. Your question seems to > fit right in. > > On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 3:57:27 PM UTC-4, Brad wrote: > > Hello All, > > As I see it, one of the more important trends in computational > sciences is reproducibility. I have tried out a number of > platforms that attempt to enable reproducibility and capture > the provenance necessary to faithfully recapitulate > computational analyses; however, I found them burdensome in > terms of the imposed workflows. > > I wonder if Leo could be a compelling platform for this use case. > > Is anyone else interested in this use case? > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "leo-editor" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/73dc42a5-f61d-4a44-81b9-b51861f3d876%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/73dc42a5-f61d-4a44-81b9-b51861f3d876%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/5a5e42c9-84a2-fed7-17a1-7fdf2f877b5a%40riseup.net.
