On Fri, Jun 13, 2025 at 4:12 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
off...@riseup.net> wrote:

>
> On 12/06/25 11:44, Edward K. Ream wrote:
>
> And I have explained why such reasons seem uncompelling. A first principle
> (an axiomatic rule) can not be: someone argument's are, by principle
> un-criticable.
>
Fair enough. But I didn't use that principle to reject the podcast!

Let me repeat my assertions:

- Criticisms of Turing will teach us nothing about AI as it exists today.
- Criticizing historical figures using modern values is a dubious
enterprise.
- The Turing test in no way hindered the development of AI.

So yes, I didn't state my first principles explicitly. And yes, my first
post could be construed as if I was saying "someone's arguments are, by
principle un-criticable". I apologize for my provocative language and lack
of clarity.

Edward

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