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Other lists I had subscribed to without any problem. -------------------------- body of email ------------------------ My first email (07.07.04) run:
>I tried to compile 'amaya-8.5' with the configuration options: > > --with-x --with-motif --without-gtk --without-gl > >'configure' found the 'lesstif' path automatically. But the com- >pilation failed. I had to change the source code slightly. > >When I sent a dif-file to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I got the following >answer: > >From: Irene Vatton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: amaya-8.5 > >> My system: linux-2.4.26, gcc-3.3 >> >> I tried to compile amaya-8.5 with: >> >> --with-x --with-motif >> >> and had to make some changes (see amaya-8.5.dif) to be successful. > >Hum, this option is now progressively removed from the Amaya source >because a lot of new dialogs cannot work with the Motif toolkit. > >################################### >Does this answer mean that the Motif toolkit is out of date? > >winfried
Thomas Adam answered:
>No it does not! Just because one application changes the way things >work, it is not a good generalisation to make the assumption that the >libraries "must be out of date". Thanks to the work of some very skilled >people here, I have managed to compile motif applications that were >originally built against libc4 -- and that *is* going back somewhat. > >Conversley, I have compiled very recent applications against the lesstif >libraries, a huge case in point is "antiright" which extends 'mwm' which >is what these people also built. > >Motif is by no means dead. It might have been overshadowed by other >widget sets/bindings such as Qt and GTK, but so what? I *love* motif, >and so I *love* lesstif. > >With respect to Amaya, that was clearly a conscious descision by the >developers of that application, so you really need to ask them or check >the CHANGELOG files to find out what happened. > >May the good work continue. :) > >-- Thomas Adam
I was looking for another email pointing to the same problem. The email I found while looking for UTF-8 support. But I had made a print copy, so I cite some lines from this copy:
>To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From : Juliusz Chroboczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Hello world in UTF-8/X11 >Date : 17 Jan 2003 > >MR>I have a Motif/Lesstif-based program that I'd like to >MR>internationalize and needs to display a UTF-8 encoded string. > >You'll need to write your own Unicode widgets.(...) >I would strongly recommend that you port your application >to Gtk+ 2. > >Juliusz
Now you should see that I did not ask: is anybody out there who does not love the *tif-toolkit. The question is more something like: is the *tif-toolkit ready for the future?
Compiling against libc4 may be an enterprise. But as long as the toolkit does not support UTF-8, it seems to be "strongly recommended to use GTK+ 2".
winfried
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