Danny,
I'm thinking of two application areas:
a) PDA's (iPAQ, etc.) running Linux
b) Appliances that need remote control and monitoring (the monitoring is
important since html is by nature a pull). This would include printers,
medical devices/displays, industrial controls, etc.
The PDA's tend to be small screen, single window open at a time. (Reminds
me of the old Mac's before multifinder, but that is dating me...)
The Appliances have more information to project and control, and can take
advantage of large screen displays.
These applications all seem to have very simple user interfaces with some
dialog boxes popping up from time to time to handle warnings/exceptions.
I18N is probably required. I suspect that a slimmer lesstif would sit on
top of Kieth Packards Tiny X.
Not sure if that is enough info... I've heard rumors that the GDK folks are
porting GTK+ on top of Nano-X. That might further reduce their footprint.
Regards,
Mark
At 08:21 AM 10/30/2000 +0100, Danny Backx wrote:
>Mark,
>
>What would you expect a light weight / embedded LessTif to do,
>or rather, what can it lack as a tradeoff against weight ?
>
> Danny
>
>Mark Hatch wrote :
> > Just came back from a conference where one of the Metro Link folks (Stuart
> > Anderson) pointed out that Motif (2.1.30) was as light as GTK and QT
> (the X
> > version, not embedded). The only GUI toolkit with a significantly lighter
> > footprint was fltk. (See table below for some of the data presented.) It
> > was explained that fltk was because creating a single Motif widget might
> > result in several additional widgets being linked into the application.
>
> >"Hello World"
> >
> >Toolkit RAM File Size
> >Motif 1584KB 1582KB
> >Gnome 1536KB 2922KB
> >KDE 1824KB 2668KB
> >Fltk 728KB 563KB
> >Athena 960KB 1027KB
>
>
>
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/27/2000 10:26:00 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Internet
>cc: (bcc: Danny Backx/U27113/KB/KredAlm)
>Subject: lesstif for embedded?
>
>Hi,
>
>Just came back from a conference where one of the Metro Link folks (Stuart
>Anderson) pointed out that Motif (2.1.30) was as light as GTK and QT (the X
>version, not embedded). The only GUI toolkit with a significantly lighter
>footprint was fltk. (See table below for some of the data presented.) It
>was explained that fltk was because creating a single Motif widget might
>result in several additional widgets being linked into the application.
>
>We've looked at the Motif source code, and it is a basic architectural
>decision that would require a full rewrite to reverse. I haven't looked at
>the lesstif source, but maybe the lesstif team made a different design
>decision?
>
>Mark
>
>Comparative Size of Desktops
>
>Desktop RAM File Size
>Motif 5780KB 30mb
>Gnome 13896KB 95mb
>KDE 10924KB 96mb
>Minimal 4584KB 16mb
>
>Minimal = Typical X server, twm, xterm, clock
>
>
>"Hello World"
>
>Toolkit RAM File Size
>Motif 1584KB 1582KB
>Gnome 1536KB 2922KB
>KDE 1824KB 2668KB
>Fltk 728KB 563KB
>Athena 960KB 1027KB
>
>
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