#2111: Adding PACO to LFS
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 Reporter:  spinal84     |        Owner:  [email protected]
     Type:  enhancement  |       Status:  new                          
 Priority:  low          |    Milestone:  7.0                          
Component:  Book         |      Version:  7.0                          
 Severity:  normal       |   Resolution:                               
 Keywords:               |  
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Comment (by spinal84):

 Replying to [comment:14 Bryan Kadzban]:

 > Just want to comment on that: I don't think it's right. The "package
 manager" scheme that I use personally is quite easy for me (mostly because
 I'm used to it) -- "hard", "complicated", and "inconvenient" are all
 dependent on who's making the decision. What's inconvenient for one person
 isn't necessarily inconvenient for everyone.

 If you want to speak grounded about hardness, convenience and complexity
 you should learn first what is paco, ok? I think you will change your mind
 about "one person/another person". Just speak about you and it will be
 truth.

 > adding paco to the official LFS book as a '''requirement''' would mean
 that at least one editor (me), and probably a fair number of others, would
 no longer actually run the real LFS system, because they'd want to use
 whatever package management scheme (if any!) that they use today.

 I don't think the book is written mainly for their editors as a "think in
 itself". I think it's written mostly for linux community. Am I wrong?

 > I don't think that's good for testing; especially not for testing paco-
 related issues.  :-)

 What are you speaking about? If you know any paco-related issues why don't
 you report em?

 > > Why someone will not want to use paco?
 >
 > I'm not sure about anyone else, but I don't want to use it because I
 already have a package management system (that '''isn't''' paco) that I
 want to keep using.  I don't think I'd ever heard of paco before this
 ticket was created, actually.  :-)

 Good point. But maybe first give it a try before making grounded
 conclusions? Maybe it's not so bad ? :-)

 BTW why do you hesitate to point concretely what your favourite package
 management system is?

 > > > LFS should not use any package management scheme. It's not that
 difficult to simply take whatever package management techique you want and
 integrate it into your own LFS system.
 > >
 > > Continuing your idea: LFS doesn't need grub, sysvinit, vim and many
 other packages as it's not that difficult to simply take whatever boot
 loader, initializing system or editor you want and integrate it into your
 own LFS system.
 >
 > That is true, sort of.  You need '''some''' bootloader and '''some'''
 initialization system, though (otherwise your system won't boot), and
 grub/sysvinit are as good as any other.  If a package manager was required
 to get Linux to boot, then we'd have one system or another in the book
 already.

 If you need etherboot then grub is useless for you. If you prefer nano you
 don't need vim. If you need some kind of editor - use sed, it rocks. Is my
 idea clear?

 > ...and besides, vim was in the book when Gerard first wrote it.

 Do you really think it's a good point? What about this: ...and besides,
 lilo was in the book when Gerard first wrote it. Gerard is not here. And
 why you think Gerard wouldn't like paco?

 > Sysvinit falls into that category as well (I think): it's been in the
 book from the first version.

 Again. Do you really think it's a good point?

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