On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:58:09 -0600, Archaic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 12:39:18PM -0400, Chris Staub wrote:
> >
> >Every few days I get a message from all lists stating that my
> >subscription has been disabled due to excessive bouncing. In the email
> >that I get I get a link to a URI that I have to click to activate it.
> >If I click on the URI with the confirmation string, mailman tells me
> >that the the confirmation sting is invalid. I have to login into my
> >account to reenable the subscription.
> >
> >This started happening April 1st.
> >
> I've been having the exact same problem, but only with the -website and
> lfs-dev lists...and I don't have a gmail account.

According to the smtp logs, the problem seems to be that gmail is
rejecting viral email (unless it truly is a malformed non-viral
attachment which isn't likely). Some people believe viral email should
be sanitized and sent. Some don't. I generally agree with the latter
point of view, but many ISP's either just sanitize, or do nothing, so no
rejects.

status=bounced (host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.27] said: 552
5.7.0 Illegal Attachment e18si591653qbe

And technically, "bounce" in this context is really "reject". Bounces
only happen if the receiving server initially accepts the email and then
decides not to send it on. This usually causes a MAILER-DAEMON message
to be sent to the sender from the receiving smtpd (which can cause huge
backscatter problems).

I just received a viral mail which was badly forged to look as if it comes from
MAILER-DAEMON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. It _was_ however then
relayed by the lfs mailman.
Take a look at the originating header:

Received: from linuxfromscratch.org (host132-91.pool82107.interbusiness.it
        [82.107.91.132])
        by smtp.linuxfromscratch.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF44F27B7
        for <[email protected]>;
        Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:32:21 -0600 (MDT)
From: "MAILER-DAEMON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The mail contained a FILE.SCR attachment of about 30k (a Windoze screen saver executable binary, if I'm not mistaken.) I never got a chance to check it out though
because the mail provider blocked it.

So yes, it looks like Gmail or whatever other ISP people have been have problems with have legitimately been rejecting some mails from the lfs lists. But personally I have not received especially many spam or viral mails from the lfs lists. (And surely
I should receive just as many as any other subscribers?)

SpamAssassin as of late has gotten stupid. It will be sorted as time
permits. Can gmail whitelist?

Maybe someone will need to look into that sooner than foreseen ;-(

Brandon.


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