Hi Bruce

(My apologies for any formatting issues, I'm not sure how this web client
behaves with lists.)

I think those are reasonable arguments for what to include in the LFS book
proper. Perhaps this email really was off-topic here then, because I didn't
mean to imply that LFS should consider switching to it or adding it. I
really was just curious if anyone had looked at it in depth and had any
technical opinions about it.

For me, one of the things that stands out is the way it approaches process
supervision, i.e., not trying to manage/understand state of a service via
shell scripts and pid files. Are there still parts of the community here
that are active with more experimental topics?

Thanks,

JH


On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:18 PM Bruce Dubbs <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> > Hello Folks!
> >
> > Nice to see LFS still active and up-to-date!
> >
> > I was wondering if any of you have worked with, or have an opinion on
> > skalibs/s6 -- http://skarnet.org/software/s6/
> >
> > I've been messing around with it quite a bit and I have to say I quite
> like
> > it. My motivation for evaluating was interest in finding a lighter, more
> > robust init system, something that was definitely _not_ systemd. Working
> > with it has also led me to re-evaluating how a system approaches logging,
> > with interesting consequences.
> >
> > Hope this wasn't too off-topic, but if anyone has any opinions about it,
> > I'd love to hear them.
>
> Hi Jeremy.  It's been a long time.  You are always welcome here.
>
> I took a look at s6.  It does seem to have some interesting features, but
> to me they are not compelling for LFS.  It seems to address servers more
> than workstations, but I have not seen the problems it purports to solve.
>
> We've had servers up for years without problems.
>
>  From the LFS standpoint, the strongest asset of sysv is it's
> transparency.  In total it is about 2000 lines of fairly simple bash
> scripts.  Users can go through those and modify/tweak to their heart's
> content.  They have full control.
>
> For those who want or need more, there is systemd.  You may not know that
> we have integrated systemd and sysv into the same set of xml.  We can
> generate the systemd book merely by 'make REV=systemd'.  sysv is the
> default without the REV parameter.
>
> Another init system would be very invasive for the book and would need a
> dedicated maintainer for both LFS and BLFS.
>
>    -- Bruce
>
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