On Monday 11 February 2008 17:30:46 Mauricio Henriquez wrote:
> Hi Steve:
Hi to both!
I'm a Linux Teacher too.

>
> I am an IT instructor in the Universidad Austral de Chile and I have to
> dictate Operating Systems curses and also use LFS for personal porpuses
> and a big YES is a very good choice for a teaching tool, > the studients 
> like the clear approach of the book, the precision and is very
> entertaining
I agree, I have using much of the LFS on teaching Linux (courses for SysOps 
not a entire OS course). I'm not use the book itself, and the objective of 
the course is not build a Linux from scratch, but I translated some parts and 
send to the students

> (very good job guys!!!).
Yes! :-D  A very very very good job
It's true that LFS save my life on Linux. Without them, I never could reach 
the knowledge level I needed.

> But also depends on the curse objects, my personal opinion LFS can't be
> a complete curse of operating systems, becouse with this you can
> understend how is the architecture of an OS (foldres, libraries,
> dependencies, main bloks, important parts, etc, etc) , and in part you
> understend the idea of how the real OS, the kernel, work, 
> LFS is not 
> focused on give you a play ground to make programing exercises if you
> want that. So, for a more deep OS analisys (and C exercises)I prefer to
> use a minimalistic kernel like linux-0.1 or minix, even work with the
> studient in conceptual exercises in C# is also posible and also you can
> check the SharpOS proyect...
I used LFS to create a very complete server solution to my clients and now I 
just starting the plan to offer trainning in Linux in my enterprise. The LFS 
will be the base for that, and I will construct a entire enviroment (with 
Desktop, virtualization, and so) to give the student a more deep experiment 
with diverses parts of the system. It's a lot of work. The Steven idea is 
great, but I agree with Mauricio. The LFS will create a conceptual exercise 
of how stuffs work, and how its connects each others, not make the cited 
playground. But you can (with some big efforts) adapt it to yours needs, like 
I doing! 

>
> if you want we can share some experiences about that, bibliographi, etc...
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mauricio Henriquez
>
> Steven Locher wrote:
> > I am an IT instructor with allround experience in Unixes, like Solaris,
> > FreeBSD, Slackware and Debain - but never had time for LFS. I used to
> > teach C and Java at the junior level in a university.
> >
> > My next subject is going to be Operating Systems where Linux is going to
> > be the area of application. I got this great idea of starting from
> > scratch: - students install LFS on VMware-Server on Windows host
> > - we get a C development environment up
> > - do the exercises in C on this environment.
> >
> > Time frame one semester, starting in Spring!
> >
> > I know, I should go through the documents and try it myself. But due to
> > the limited time available, I would like to ask you whether this is
> > feasible or advisable. If yes, please post relevant pointers here.
> >
> > regards
> > Steve


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