On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 11:16:08PM +0100, Steven Locher wrote:
> 
> It is not for admins, but there is a chapter (2 weeks) reserved for
> that. My idea is to get the basic system going during those 2 weeks.
> 
> > > You also need to work out how much time
> > > is actually available for your course (do you expect your students
> > > to devote all their time to the course, or two hours a week, or
> > > what ?), and then work out how much of that will be taken up with
> > > building the basic system.
> 
> That is exactly what I want to know. Is 2 weeks @ 4h are enough?

 Probably not.  I build from scripts, and I understand how my
scripts work (mostly!), so some of my builds are a straight
run-through.  On my fastest box, (athlon64 4000+, raptor disk)
4 or 5 hours is ample to get a bootable 32-bit system with gdb,
strace, and a few other bells and whistles.  The things that really
take the time are the toolchain tests, basically all recent
toolchains take for ever.  Your vmware host is unknown territory
for me.  Some people have faster machines, I suppose, others are
slower.

 As to looking at the test results, and trying to work out what they
are telling you...  There's a lot of variability - some packages
give you a nice bottom line, like "all 1 tests passed" after running
a number of tests, some like 'make' are very easy to understand,
some will fail as soon as a test fails (coreutils-6.10), some will
silently skip tests in some circumstances.

 You also have to consider what happens if^H^Hwhen something goes
wrong (e.g. students who omit or mis-key something).  If you've
built the book a few times, and followed the list, you will
occasionally have a good idea about what has gone wrong.  Other
times, people get completely new problems, and I suspect that
building on vmware might fall into that category.

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