Ok, I'll give it another whack, but it really seems that there should be 
something better to build a system that works.

-----Original Message-----
From: lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org 
[mailto:lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org] On Behalf Of Dustin Essington
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:07 AM
To: LFS Support List
Subject: Re: Building LFS using jhlfs

LFS is a book you follow to make the distro yourself. Ergo, if you want those. 
Download the packages and build them on your own. 

LFS isn't really meant to be a, "here run this script and it will build a whole 
functioning system for you", kind of setup. It's meant to teach people HOW to 
build a system from nothing but source code and a host system.

You are also using an out of date version of the book. 6.8 is the latest try 
following that.

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/

That is version 6.8 online.

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On Sep 29, 2011, at 13:47, Jacob Alifrangis <jalifran...@braindonors.net> wrote:

> Oh yeah, and the build HAS to be reproducible.
> 
> I.E. if we make a change, we should be able to something like this:
> 
> cd /xyz/source
> make
> 
> then run our packaging script.
> 
> 
> It should be really simple, and it's stunning that this doesn't exist.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org 
> [mailto:lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org] On Behalf Of Jacob 
> Alifrangis
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:37 AM
> To: LFS Support List
> Subject: RE: Building LFS using jhlfs
> 
> So what exactly was the answer, because there isn't one in the reply.
> 
> Here's what it comes down to:
> 
> We need a system, that has:
> 
> Kernel, drivers, sound support, networking etc.
> bash
> x windows, the smallest window manager available, which we can opt not to use.
> smb
> ftp client
> wget
> mono
> gtk-Sharp
> 
> that's it, the total install should be around 150mb.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org 
> [mailto:lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org] On Behalf Of Bruce 
> Dubbs
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:08 PM
> To: LFS Support List
> Subject: Re: Building LFS using jhlfs
> 
> Jacob Alifrangis wrote:
>> Ok, so before I ask anything let me introduce myself:
>> 
>> My name is Jacob Alifrangis and I am the Chief Architect at 
>> Braindonors Networks, and I am starting a new project that we to run 
>> on linux, but all of the distributions out there have oodles of 
>> bloatware on them and we really don't need the garbage that comes 
>> with them, so we decided to build our own distribution.
>> 
>> And here's where we get stuck, there's nothing out there that is 
>> really easy to build; you'd figure that after 15 plus years of linux 
>> being around, that someone, somewhere would get it, and build a tool 
>> to build a linux environment. Then we found LFS, downloaded it, and 
>> sighed in dismay.
>> 
>> So here's the question: Where is the damn Step-By-Step Guide?
> 
> LFS *is* a step by step guide.  We put in a lot of effort to do that. 
> You have to understand that LFS is not a distro in the classic form, it is a 
> book that describes how to build a Linux system.
> 
>> Build LFS
>> 
>> Configure using the Menu Download file from wget 
>> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads/6.4/LFS-BOOK-6.4-wget-l
>> i st  then mkdir sources cd sources wget -i ../LFS-BOOK-6.4-wget-list
>> 
>> make [fails] Creating Makefile... START LFS/master.sh: line 382: cd:
>> ./Build-LFS/jhalfs/lfs-commands: No such file or directory
>> 
>> <jhalfs 2.3.2> exit
> 
> jhalfs was a tool used by the LFS editors to extract the commands from the 
> book and build a system.  There have been many changes over the years to the 
> book and jhalfs does not have a formal system of releases. 
>  That said, the development version of jhalfs in subversion does do a decent 
> job in building the current book.
> 
> By the way, the current version of LFS is 6.8.  The 6.4 version of the book 
> was released in November 2008.
> 
>   -- Bruce
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