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On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:20 AM, akhiezer <[email protected]> wrote:

> > From [email protected] Mon Aug  4 10:15:21
> 2014
> > From: Michael Havens <[email protected]>
> > Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 02:16:54 -0700
> > To: LFS Support List <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Please, teach me how to fix problems.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 1:46 AM, akhiezer <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > From: Michael Havens <[email protected]>
> > > > Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 01:11:02 -0700
> > > > To: LFS Support List <[email protected]>
> > > > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Please, teach me how to fix problems.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:14 AM, akhiezer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 07:55:46 +0100
> > > > > > From: [email protected] (akhiezer)
> > > > > > To: LFS Support List <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Please, teach me how to fix problems.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Michael Havens <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:22:37 -0700
> > > > > > > To: LFS Support List <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Please, teach me how to fix
> problems.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 3:02 PM, akhiezer <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: Michael Havens <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 14:56:11 -0700
> > > > > > > > > To: LFS Support List <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Please, teach me how to fix
> > > problems.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >         .
> > > > > > > >         .
> > > > > > > > > > > I typed in 'exit' until I got to the command prompt:
> > > > > > > > > > >   lfs@debian:~$
> > > > > > > > > > > the I su  to root. Then I made the backups by
> > > > > > > > > > >   cp -rf sources/ tools/ lfs.backups/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (OK, not the way I'd do backups, but hey ... ).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Presumably you're doing this in the $LFS dir, namely
> > > /mnt/lfs  .
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If so, then you have created /mnt/lfs/lfs.backups/  .
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You want now to move the 'lfs.backups' dir outside of
> > > /mnt/lfs :
> > > > > move
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > to be under /home : so you should now have
> > > /home/lfs.backups/  .
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Don't worry about moving/removing anything else from
> under
> > > > > /mnt/lfs
> > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > yet: instead, see next question.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ** Now, where is your backup of the toolchain that you
> did at
> > > > > end of
> > > > > > > > > > chapter 5 ? **
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (I know you wanted to push on with this on your Sunday.
> NB
> > > that
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > > > that you're ca 7-12 time-zones behind).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Now I:
> > > > > > > > > > >   chroot "$LFS" /tools/bin/env -i HOME=/root
> > > > > > > > > > > and then I was going to "rm -rf" each individual
> directory
> > > but
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > > > > things were right:
> > > > > > > > > > >   root@debian:/# ls
> > > > > > > > > > >   bin   etc      lfs.backups  lost+found  opt     run
> > > > >  sources
> > > > > > > > > > > temptools  usr
> > > > > > > > > > >   boot  home      lib           media       proc  sbin
> > >  srv
> > > > > > > > > > > tmp          var
> > > > > > > > > > >   dev   initrd.img  lib64        mnt       root
>  selinux
> > >  sys
> > > > > > > > > > > tools      vmlinuz
> > > > > > > > > > >   root@debian:/# exit
> > > > > > > > > > >   exit
> > > > > > > > > > >   lfs@debian:/$ su
> > > > > > > > > > >   Password:
> > > > > > > > > > >   root@debian:/# ls
> > > > > > > > > > >   bin   etc      lfs.backups  lost+found  opt     run
> > > > >  sources
> > > > > > > > > > > temptools  usr
> > > > > > > > > > >   boot  home      lib           media       proc  sbin
> > >  srv
> > > > > > > > > > > tmp          var
> > > > > > > > > > >   dev   initrd.img  lib64        mnt       root
>  selinux
> > >  sys
> > > > > > > > > > > tools      vmlinuz
> > > > > > > > > > > The two directories are the same?  To make sure they
> > > weren't I
> > > > > ls
> > > > > > > > /home:
> > > > > > > > > > >   root@debian:/# ls home/
> > > > > > > > > > >   lfs  mike
> > > > > > > > > > >   root@debian:/# chroot "$LFS" /tools/bin/env -i
> > > HOME=/root
> > > > > > > > > > >   HOME=/root
> > > > > > > > > > >   root@debian:/# ls home/
> > > > > > > > > > >   lfs  mike
> > > > > > > > > > > So both directories are the same So what to do now?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The above excerpt is completely irrelevant here.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You (basically) don't need/want to be using 'chroot'
> here.
> > > > > > > >         .
> > > > > > > >         .
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In any case. I didn't create /mnt/lfs/lfs.backups/  as I
> > > backed up
> > > > > to /
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (The 'ls' outputs from above show it as seemingly being under
> > > both
> > > > > '/' and
> > > > > > > > '/mnt/lfs' ).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I moved it to /home so now we are on the same page.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > OK.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As for the copy of
> > > > > > > > > /tools I also put it in / .
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > _What_ "copy of /tools" ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The one you did at end of chapter 5 ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Or the one that you just did today ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think /mnt/lfs/tools was created in ch5 and so I cp it to /
> the
> > > mkdir
> > > > > > > lfs.backups then mv sources and tools backups to it then mv
> > > > > lfs.backups to
> > > > > > > /home/ so I end up with /home/lfs.backups containing my
> backups of
> > > > > sources
> > > > > > > and tools.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did you do that at end of chapter 5 - at that moment in time -
> and
> > > > > _before_
> > > > > > moving on to chapter 6 ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OR, did you instead ONLY do that yesterday ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You need to have done a backup of /mnt/lfs/tools WHEN you reached
> > > the end
> > > > > > of chapter 5: you had to do the backup at THAT moment in time;
> and
> > > you
> > > > > > had to do that BEFORE moving on to chapter 6.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regardless, I think I have the backups where you want them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > WHERE, right now, is the backup that you did WHEN you were at the
> > > end of
> > > > > > chapter 5 and BEFORE you moved on to chapter 6 ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is the full path of its directory?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And WHERE, right now, is the backup that you did yesterday: what
> is
> > > the
> > > > > > full path of its directory ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You should have two separate backups by now: the one that you
> did at
> > > > > > end of chapter 5 - at that point in time - before moving on to
> > > chapter 6;
> > > > > > and the one that you did yesterday.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You need to be crystal-clear on these points; else it's probably
> not
> > > time
> > > > > > yet to resume the build.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  - meant to add, that if you're not understanding the concepts here
> > > readily
> > > > > enough, then it may be safest just to, at most, restart from
> scratch -
> > > > > i.e. start from the beginning of the book again. Yes, that might
> be a
> > > pita
> > > > > for you; but you should have some experience now of how to get
> through
> > > > > those
> > > > > early chapters of the book; so it should not be wasted time. And it
> > > means
> > > > > that you should be starting from a known good state - i.e. a clean
> > > slate.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What we have been trying to do here, namely rewinding to end of
> chapter
> > > > > 5 and then resuming the build, does require, really, clarity about
> some
> > > > > concepts and instructions to follow: else you really are better, as
> > > said,
> > > > > to just go back to very start of book again. It's variously
> > > inadvisable,
> > > > > all-round, otherwise.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'll start over, if you want, although I am certain I put the backup
> of
> > > > tools in / after I finished ch5 (before I stated 6).
> > > > The backup I did yesterday of sources and tools I put in
> > > /temptools/7.5tools
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It's not a matter of 'what I want': it's instead a matter of, what may
> be
> > > most appropriate.
> > >
> > >
> > > You're still not answering the simple direct question: what is the full
> > > path of the directory to which you backed up ch.5 toolchain - the
> backup
> > > that you did at end of ch.5 immediately before any starting of ch.6 .
> > > Saying
> > > "I put the backup of tools in / " is not answering the question - at
> least,
> > > not precisely and unambiguously enough.
> > >
> > >
> > > The backup that you did yesterday, is you say in '/temptools/7.5tools'
> :
> > > so you've got '/temptools/7.5tools/sources' and
> > > '/temptools/7.5tools/tools',
> > > that you backed up yesterday. That's great (although I note it's
> seemingly
> > > different from the 'lfs.backups' backup dir that you were talking about
> > > yesterday). Now, what is the equivalent info for the earlier ch.5
> backup?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > I put it in / - the root directory yesterday.
>         .
>         .
> >
>
>
> What is the name of the directory, in/under '/' ?
>
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