On 15 May 2017 at 16:37, Douglas R. Reno <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Paul Rogers <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Not too long ago we had a question about installing LFS on/with Windows, >> but it'd be fair to say there was little to say about it. I ran across >> this article today: >> >> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/05/ >> windows-server-will-add-the-linux-subsystem-join-the-insider-program/ >> >> Not too much info there, but it does have some links. >> > > > I've been working on it a little bit recently. One of my friends gave me > remote access (RDP and Chrome Remote Desktop) to a Windows Server 2016 and > Windows 10 PC. I've run into some interesting issues with the standard > Ubuntu install, in particular because the syscalls are emulated, and it's > VERY slow... but it works (with a ton of modifications). > > When I get a system completed, I'll take notes and spread the knowledge. > > It's also worth noting that parallelization doesn't work, and because of > the emulation, the overhead is HUGE.If I run -j4, it actually slows it down > by a factor of four because it can only run one large process at a time. > > For future reference, the system that I've been playing with this on has > an i7-7700k with 16GB of RAM (it's his gaming rig). The SBU value is over > 15 minutes... > > I've been using jhalfs on it, but I'm tempted to do a build manually and > record it so that we have a general idea of how long it takes. > > Also, sudo barely works (I had to modify jhalfs to let me run as root), > and it's impossible to mount filesystems, even if you create a file for LFS > and mount that as an ext4 in /mnt/lfs instead. I also had to create a > symlink from /proc/self/mounts to /etc/mtab as well, as that did not come > as default. > > I actually needed autoconf/automake/autogen because GCC wanted to try > compiling for a new architecture and requested it. > > TL;DR - finished the temporary toolchain after 16 hours, and it's really > slow... but it's functional. > Why waste your time with a proprietary system that you can't fully control? We run a FLOSS drop-in for residents at a local library and we constantly hear complaints from Windows 10 users about how Microsoft is feeding unwanted advertisements through the back door that it installs. Have you missed the worldwide condemnation of Microsoft where Windows has allowed crackers to cripple systems, including our own NHS here in the UK? Admittedly, much of this has been possible because (unbelievably) Windows XP is still in constant use, however, any proprietary system controls the user, and not the other way around as it should be. Recently, I saw Windows XP on a consultants terminal at a local hospital. When I expressed my concern, and disbelief, he just threw up his hands in a helpless manner and said that that was what he was stuck with. Now we've seen the results of that folly. Richard
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