On January 1, 2020, at 11:03, Alan Feuerbacher <[email protected]> wrote:
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>On 12/31/2019 10:34 PM, Flareon Zulu wrote:
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>On December 31, 2019, at 22:05, Alan Feuerbacher <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>On 12/31/2019 6:24 PM, Flareon Zulu wrote:
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>>On December 31, 2019, at 18:15, Bruce Dubbs <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>On 12/31/19 4:47 PM, Alan Feuerbacher wrote:
>>>> Another question on building LFS Version 20191222-systemd:
>>>> In Section "5.37. Changing Ownership" there's a Note:
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>>>> "The commands in the remainder of this book must be performed while
>>>> logged in as user root and no longer as user lfs. Also, double check
>>>> that $LFS is set in root's environment."
>>>>
>>>> At this point in the build process I'm logged in as user lfs, having
>>>> done so with "su - lfs" back in Section "4.3. Adding the LFS User".
>>>> I could "exit" and get back to whatever user I was, and then do
>>>> "su - root" or "su root" or perhaps something else.
>>>>
>>>> How do you recommend logging in now as user root?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, I'm not fully confident that I know how a shell versus a
>>>> login shell plays in the LFS environment.
>>>Use 'exit' to return to the previous user. You will need to change to
>>>the root user if you are not already there in order to do some
>>>preliminary work. Then in Section 6.4 you will enter chroot (only root
>>>can run that) and will be the root user there. Being in chroot should
>>>be apparent from the '(lfs chroot)' part of the prompt.
>>>To exit chroot, again use 'exit', but you will not need to do that until
>>>you finish the book.
>>>Note the the difference between a login shell and a non-login shell is
>>>the initialization scripts that are run. See the bash man page for
>>>details in the INVOCATION section.
>>> -- Bruce
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>>Mr. Bruce, he was asking about the specific command to use, not just about
>>the shell. Though Mr. Alan should be looking these things up before coming to
>>the support list, as otherwise there may never be any learning.
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>>If you actually read what I wrote, you'd have seen that I have indeed
>>carefully looked things up for myself.
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>>But some things are not written clearly -- which is why I asked for help in
>>understanding.
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>>To make my request perfectly clear, in the section 5.37 of the LFS book, how
>>does one properly login to root? With "su root" or "su - root"? The book
>>does not say. And since I'm fooling with LFS in order to learn these things,
>>I want enough information to get real understanding -- not just a
>>monkey-see-monkey-do answer.
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>>Alan
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>Have you tried "man su" yet? Because I think everyone expects you to do that.
>Before we devolve into utter flaming madness, please?
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>Flareon
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>Of course! I've looked at lots of man pages.
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>Now please instruct me as to what, exactly, in the su man page answers my
>original question.
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>Also please expound on why the LFS book says to use "su - lfs" when the su man
>page says this:
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>"It is recommended to always use the --login option (instead its shortcut -)
>to avoid side effects caused by mixing environments."
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>Alan
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That's asking for "monkey see monkey do," and frankly, you should be able to
figure it out from the man page. At this point, if you can't do that, I will
officially lose all hope for Linux.
Flareon
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Do not top post on this list.
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A: Top-posting.
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