On Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 06:11:53PM +0300, Αγαθοκλής wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 07, at 10:51 Bruce wrote:
> > On 6/7/20 10:35 AM, Ken Moffat wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 03:43:30PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote:
> > > > Finally replying to this:
> 
> Hi Ken,
> 
> I was meant to ask you about this, to verify that the issue was really 
> -march=native,
> because in that case it would be a compiler bug. Those days -march=native is 
> almost
> assumed, as it is almost guarranteed that the results will be the same in 
> that same
> machine, so it looked a bit strange to affect the instruction set.
> 

Hi Ag,

as I've now seen, it was not -march=native.  But using that does
mean restrictions on moving the binaries to a new machine (for those
of us, maybe only me, who have given up on distros).  e.g. I managed
to move from AMD Fam15 (Kaveri, it was so slow from lack of CPU
cache that it had become not useful) to Zen+ using all components
except motherboard, CPU, RAM - but I had to rebuild quite a few LFS
packages to get them all working, and I don't recommend the process.

> > > 
> > > So, I've been looking in the wrong place, it's embedded perl in
> > > rxvt-unicode: google found
> > > http://lists.schmorp.de/pipermail/rxvt-unicode/2013q3/001839.html
> > > 
> > > and earlier in that thread was the link to the still-open issue
> > > at perl: https://github.com/Perl/perl5/issues/12349
> > 
> > The issue has been around since 2001 ??!!
> > 
> > Perhaps it's time for you to use another terminal emulator.
> 
> I use urxvt since my gentoo days at 2004, and honestly i do not remember a 
> single
> crash all those years, despite that i use the daemon/client functionality, 
> which has
> a bit of risk, since if an instance/client crashes, all the other clients 
> will crash
> too. Besides that, it is really run low in resources and was one of the first 
> terminals
> that supported UTF-8. Granted I do not bind perl though these days.
> 

My build of urxvt uses the defaults (whatever they are, I have not
looked for a while).  I'm just coming to the end of an LFS trunk
build on another system (this weekend's builds were cross-chap5)
where the host (gcc-9) used -O3 -march=native for glibc : using
xfce4-terminal I didn't get sigfpe in diffs from the bash tests, and
all of the check tests passed.

What misled me initially when I looked at my logs re the check tests
was that the machines where I'd run the tests and they all passed
were low-powered (SandyBridge i3 with very slow memory,
athlon200ge).  What I did not spot was that those tests were also on
my server and test-server, so not building from within Xorg.

> >  -- Bruce
> 
> Regards,
> ag

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