Paul, I'm bowing out of this discussion, as I can see I'm too passionate about this topic, and perhaps I indeed don't understand the incubator process well enough.
I'll continue to try to facilitate sharing across projects and understand it is likely that there will be a rewrite of libcloud in java in this project. I don't like all of the duplicate effort that this implies, and think it is distracting. I think everyone gets that. That said, it is not my call, and you are right I am not a libcloud dev. Apologies for adding to the drama. -Adrian On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Paul Querna <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Adrian Cole <[email protected]> wrote: > > Paul, > > > > Since this is about java more than python, which is what libcloud is to > > date, I'm speaking up. > > > > The only party concerned outwardly with turning libcloud into java is > IBM, > > which is why I raise to the surface this context. There is a lot of > > backdoor discussions I have heard about that I could mention, so let's > not > > go there. > > No, lets go there. > > There has not been any backdoor collusion between Cloudkick and IBM. > I am very very tired of your continued allusions to this. > > All that has ever happened, is some people from IBM asked Alex Polvi > if a libcloud port to java was possible -- Alex did the right thing > and said its possible, be active in the community, talk about it, and > submit patches. There is no secret Cloudkick + IBM Cabal trying to > take over the Java world with our impressive Apache libcloud project. > > There is no secret room at Cloudkick or IBM where we wrote all the > code, or where we decided to do anything. Nothing. > > > If you guys want to allow IBM to skip the incubator process, and hand > them > > the keys.. just do it. At least that would be transparent. > > This has absolutely nothing to do with Incubation. Its about > developing a project and in a potentially new direction, no one is > getting 'free' commit rights to anything. Projects do change > direction, they expand, they do more than their original authors ever > thought, there is nothing wrong with this in the incubator, nor in a > graduated Apache TLP. > > -Paul >
