Sent from my iPhone so pardon the brevity/formatting! 

On May 10, 2012, at 6:01 AM, Andre Rebentisch <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Freedom is an empty phrase.

I prefer to argue about obscurantism.  It has a better definition, and those 
same folks setting up statues in the Enlightenment in Amsterdam and such would 
have had much the same notion of the concept then as now, regardless of changes 
in media.  

Let's talk more about Obscurantism and truly old-fashioned LIBERalism.  

Liber-, liberation, free, you'd think you could use them interchangeably.  They 
all mean "free" in root/radical sense.  

I guess maybe it's that stubborn rhetorical distiction between "free as in 
freedom" or "free as in beer?"

Stubborn in the language or the listener?

yrs,
Shava
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