Wow Paul thanks so much for the glowing endorsement and all the pointers. I'm blushing! ;-)
I've been on this list for a couple of years, just haven't had time to engage in it over the past few months. Over the past year I have not been focusing on China much other than in a very general journalistic way, and my study of Chinese Internet censorship was always more focused on the layer of content-hosting companies than the ISP layer (mainly because when I started researching these things around 2005, the only research done on Chinese Internet censorship was on ISP filtering and nobody was taking the other layers of censorship into account). So I don't have anything to add to a discussion of the latest developments in Chinese ISP filtering. Cheers, Rebecca -- Rebecca MacKinnon Author, Consent of the Networked <http://consentofthenetworked.com/> Schwartz Senior Fellow, New America Foundation<http://newamerica.net/user/303> Co-founder, Global Voices <http://globalvoicesonline.org/> Twitter: @rmack <http://twitter.com/rmack> Office: +1-202-596-3343 On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Paul Hyland <[email protected]> wrote: > Yeah but that's just one paper - she's written, been quoted, testified > before congress, spoken at conferences, etc about internet freedom and > censorship, inside china and crossing the border and by private companies, > along with many other countries around the world - including the US. And in > the nation of Facebookistan. > > I saw a great talk she gave at the Freedom to Connect conference in the > Spring, followed by an interview by Ian Schuler from Alex Ross's team at > the State Department - the video archive should be available at the > freedom2connect.net web site. Well over 100 articles and quotes from just > the past two years are available at > http://newamerica.net/people/archives/303 - and there's her book, Consent > of the Networked, as well. Her contact info is on the New America page I > shared previously. > > Paul > > On Aug 15, 2012, at 2:18 PM, "Eric S Johnson" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Rebecca’s brilliant study (cited by Ivan) was about how companies which > host content domestically (in China) monitor that content and delete > anything they think doesn’t belong. It has nothing to do with ISPs, and > nothing to do with the blocking of foreign content (the “Great Firewall”). > **** > > ** ** > > Best,**** > > Eric**** > > PGP<http://keyserver.pgp.com/vkd/DownloadKey.event?keyid=0xE0F58E0F1AF7E6F2> > **** > > ** ** > > *From:* Ivan Sigal [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, 15 August 2012 21:39 > *To:* Paul Hyland > *Cc:* Eric S Johnson; Stanford tech list > *Subject:* Re: [liberationtech] Images of Blocking in Different Countries? > **** > > ** ** > > Rebecca's study is here:**** > > ** ** > > http://firstmonday.org/article/view/2378/2089**** > > ** ** > > She found significant variation in ISP practices at the time.**** > > ** ** > > Cheers **** > > ** ** > > Ivan**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Ivan Sigal**** > > Executive Director, Global Voices**** > > [email protected] l +1 202 361 2712**** > > www.globalvoicesonline.org**** > > ** ** > > On Aug 15, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Paul Hyland wrote:**** > > > > **** > > Rebecca MacKinnon would be one to ask about Internet censorship in China - > she studied it at the University of Hong Kong a few years ago, and is on > the board of Global Voices Online. She's now a fellow at the New America > Foundation. **** > > ** ** > > Bio/contact info: http://newamerica.net/user/303 > > On Aug 15, 2012, at 2:46 AM, "Eric S Johnson" <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > As far as I can tell, China doesn't "keyword-filter" in the sense most > people think of that phrase. That is, the Great Firewall isn't inspecting > all the text which flows through it, failing to deliver any web pages which > have offending words. The filtering is of two main types:**** > > 1) any of thousands of domains or specific URLs are on a static > blacklist, and**** > > 2) there is a small list of words which, if present in a URL, will > dynamically result in blocking.**** > > The blocking is generally manifested as a “connection reset” page which > looks to most users like “page not found.” China also poisons the DNS for > some of the domains it blocks, but this is (as far as I can tell) redundant > because of “1” above. (I guess it trips up some users whose VPN fails to > tunnel DNS requests.)**** > > Sometimes (inconsistently), an attempt to see blocked > content results not only in the content not being delivered, but also a > “punishment” meted out to the offending user: all attempts to access > servers outside China fail for a period of between 5 and 10 minutes.**** > > It’s “2” above which can be used to censor searches, since > unencrypted access to Google from inside China (or to Baidu from outside > China) puts the search terms into the URL. This censorship can easily be > neutralised by accessing Google via HTTPS.**** > > There are persistent reports that China’s cybercensorship > can sometimes vary (a little) by ISP, but I’ve never seen this (I’ve only > been to ~13 of the 34 PRC-defined provinces), and Alkasir hasn’t ever > detected any such variations. (The internet in 3 of those provinces isn’t > filtered: Hong Kong, Macao, and Taiwan. Of course, even if the PRC thinks > Taiwan’s a province, Taiwan doesn’t think that.)**** > > **** > > Best,**** > > Eric**** > > **** > > > -----Original Message-----**** > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:liberationtech-* > *** > > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Philipp Winter**** > > > Sent: Monday, 13 August 2012 16:15**** > > > To: Stanford tech list**** > > > Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Images of Blocking in Different Countries? > **** > > > **** > > > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 09:14:48PM -0700, Adam Fisk wrote:**** > > > > My understanding is that China just shows a blank page. Is that > correct?**** > > > **** > > > That depends on the type of filtering. The keyword filtering > infrastructure**** > > > forcefully terminates connections and depending on the browser you will > get an**** > > > error message saying something like "The connection was reset".**** > > > **** > > > You can actually test it yourself by going to baidu.com and searching > for**** > > > "falun".**** > > > **** > > > Philipp**** > > > _______________________________________________**** > > > liberationtech mailing list**** > > > [email protected]**** > > > **** > > > Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to:**** > > > **** > > > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech**** > > > **** > > > If you would like to receive a daily digest, click "yes" (once you click > above) next**** > > > to "would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest?"**** > > > **** > > > You will need the user name and password you receive from the list > moderator**** > > > in monthly reminders. 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