-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 André Rebentisch: > Am 29.01.2013 04:42, schrieb scarp: >> While Google fights for privacy, somewhat against lower level >> law enforcement requiring them to have supporting legal >> documentation authorizing them to have access to that >> information. > What makes you think that they defend/advocate privacy? The > ongoing debate on this side of the Atlantic: > http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/26/technology/eu-privacy-proposal-lays-bare-differences-with-us.html?_r=0 >>
I > should have said that they "appear to", because they only do so when it's costly to their own commercial interests. This way they also generate good PR. >> Hosting your own email in another country outside of the US would >> be a good idea, because we all know the NSA records everything >> anyway that goes across US networks. ... All we do seem to know >> is the NSA has plans to "record the entire Internet". > Even if they did, only a limited audience would get access. You > can't use extralegal information in court. Noticed that simplified > logic of either private/safe or public/unsafe here before. If I > don't lock my house or use an unsafe mechanism to lock it (like > 99.99% of the population) that doesn't mean anyone is invited to > enter and seize my property. > That's not a very good analogy because physical theft or seizure is noticed immediately. People then either have to do without those items or replace them which includes the burden of financial loss or time. People of all ages are able to relate to this kind of loss easily as it is quite simple, therefore legislation regarding that is unlikely to change in the future. However with data, someone can copy it and you might never find out, unless they use it in a way that directly effects you. If it is recorded, then you can't really know how or who will look at it. Once the infrastructure is there, change in legislation is all that prevents expanded agencies having access in the future. Over time people's perceptions of privacy will and have changed. This means they are less outraged by proposed draconian laws, assuming things continue down the same path as they have so far. If you look at the last 15 or so years you'll notice people consider "privacy" a "magic button" on Facebook or a promise not to be bad by the operators or the government, rather than the data not being physically available to them. > New study of the EP: Fighting cyber crime and protecting privacy in > the cloud: > http://www.europarl.europa.eu/committees/en/studiesdownload.html?languageDocument=EN&file=79050 > > Heise reports US diplomates slightly over the top against EU data > protection (German) > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/US-Diplomat-warnt-vor-Handelskrieg-wegen-EU-Datenschutzreform-1792765.html > > Best, A > > > If you put your data on someone else's servers then there is always the possibility that they can hand it over, either legally or illegally. Encrypting the data before uploading it to the cloud does make just "noise" so it does reduce the likelihood of someone wanting to look at it. Fortunately strong encryption is available to the general population without special license. - -- scarp -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJRCArhAAoJEF2gSFkP1LMTuqUP/0X9AvZH0BGvTDbrl6aYsChq ScJTlcfKN6Fhm8XBQz3ELd4n3KbQHSPhNDKbo/dE/jQLpF0WYXMWfp2hlVILI1n0 XNaZBI4xFlbpMZ+51xRdE4XZJISjQEh4a8ueT5dPbfCtArxof9qJfA3ACgjrx2av VdrCqCwT/BFNd4FlXlKLt7p7/VGf72XMWjWgcT2lBkEajMTxshSsN2BOnNwbh6IL LCuZrY0At3Q8rizXbOqAVQ46RfAD2O0F1dSioX/27law8xruzfyg32WIV97ybT7T eZ/iMj50+v2fd2gHcpT4UHd+3VF3H10uFSKzK/NSuUqAgYqWoNYXFVoSXUb+bCAK gjChCs8oLsWO9DQgL+t9RWUke1BT0oEPGYGGcdTeHAeuMZb+XN2MCwNClvNW1ADu p8oMVXPQVnj8hFiUab4QyFYseocT1ogGQIPqn+23GFzQahPrjML32WGLFKFCK6Ut BCM1GoIbQY7Zyeyy6WKGx+QEk2Fy20vcYd6Jxhg3EJWzN+5Ip9OjrsI+M3svjK72 UfYhr5wM30usygjMjLSF6kSo8Lvow/CyQDSyT5OKGNyJv6EAbhrIzBF0x/VERrlK rNLt3w9PqiV3Ctt5q7SV8XTpScMH6+xrgX8O1eWM/WzRrHBomNkujYQqsUcn10Er dhwWKuELNoHszCcH2ylg =+/3I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
