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On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Most of arguments I've heard here boil down to privileged wealthy people > complaining that learning and mutual aid or solidarity is simply too > hard. The worst is when people who train people in risky situations make > those kinds of statements. > > It's frankly, really and seriously embarrassing. > Aside from how seriously tasteless that statement is, I'd like to point out that Chromebooks are in fact based on free software: http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/licenses > > All the best, > Jake > > > On Feb 6, 2013 7:09 PM, "micah anderson" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Andy Isaacson <[email protected]> writes: > >> > >>> On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 10:52:23AM -0500, micah anderson wrote: > >>>>> - ChromeOS's update mechanism is automatic, transparent, and > basically > >>>>> foolproof. Having bricked Ubuntu and Gentoo systems, the same is not > >>>>> true of Linux. > >>>> > >>>> I would be surprised if you actually 'bricked' these systems, since > >>>> neither operating system you mention involves a procedure that has the > >>>> risk of bricking a device. I suspect this is hyperbole? > >>> > >>> I've had dist-upgrade (or the GUI equivalent) make an Ubuntu system > >>> unbootable and unrecoverable without recourse to a rescue-image and > deep > >>> magic grub hacking, etc. That counts as "bricked" when the easiest > >>> course of action is to simply reinstall the OS from scratch. It's not > >>> "bricked" in the sense that an Android install gone awry can require > >>> specialized hardware (JTAG dongle etc) and crypto keys to fix, but it's > >>> equivalent from a user's point of view. > >> > >> I understand where you are going with this, but when it comes to > >> terminology, I think it serves to confuse the issue to misuse the term > >> 'brick'. You cannot, as you say, "simply reinstall the OS from scratch" > >> on a device that has been bricked. > >> > >> I can't wait for the day when Google accidentally pushes an update out > >> that actually bricks their devices, because when that happens, there is > >> no way to "simply reinstall the OS from scratch". > >> -- > >> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > > > -- > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech >
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