I noticed while trawling media lately the Saudis have been using local boats to bring in some supplies?
- Asher On 18/03/13 9:29 AM, ttscanada wrote: > > Thanks Mark, interesting. Was this recently? > > All the best, > > Heather Marsh > @GeorgieBC on Twitter > > > > On 13-03-17 2:18 PM, Mark Belinsky wrote: >> In my work with the Rohingya and research into communications systems >> in Arakan state in the Western portion of the country, it was notable >> that there was data coverage spilling over from neighboring Bangladesh >> and people were using these towers to transmit information across >> borders. >> >> All the best, >> Mark >> >> >> >> --_ >> @mbelinsky <https://twitter.com/mbelinsky>| markbelinsky.com >> <https://markbelinsky.com>| phone: +1-347-466-9327| skype: markontheline >> _ >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 4:49 PM, ttscanada <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Very good points, thanks, Jake. We were thinking more of phones >> since it appears they are more paranoid of cameras than phones, >> but you have a very good point, phones are more easily controlled. >> Rethinking. >> >> >> All the best, >> >> Heather Marsh >> @GeorgieBC on Twitter >> >> >> On 13-03-17 1:25 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote: >> >> ttscanada: >> >> Hi Jacob, >> >> Yes, exactly to the security issues, which is why we have >> tried nothing >> to date, any Rohingya caught with anything like a camera >> or radio is >> tortured and killed. Ease of use is also paramount, there >> is no point >> risking lives to get a phone in that no one can use. We are >> unfortunately at final wipeout stage and the people there >> are agreed >> that the risk of being killed is 100% with or without >> phones. I don't >> know of anything except satellite phones they could use to >> document. The >> military is definitely paranoid of cameras, phones and >> outsiders atm. >> The situation in every refugee camp outside Burma is also >> awful, but >> still not at the stage where it is worth risking lives. We >> have managed >> to get some pictures (like of Rakhine flyers announcing >> the next >> massacre) but almost nothing out of Sittwe. There is >> plenty that needs >> documenting in the surrounding areas though. >> >> In any case, they know they will die, they don't want to >> die without a >> trace. I am slightly more optimistic that if we get some >> pictures out >> some of them won't die at all, we have it from good >> sources that the >> government is already very annoyed at the small publicity >> we have >> created and worried at the war crimes documentation. The >> government's >> official position is that the Rohingya don't actually >> exist, or if they >> did they just left. >> >> The situation with the Rohingya is heart breaking. :( >> >> If it is possible, I would suggest trying to bring cameras >> like the GoPro: >> >> http://gopro.com/ >> >> They're not easy or cheap in that part of the world. They are >> certainly >> easier to pass on, harder to detect and have a quality that is >> rarely >> available to any phone camera. Obviously, any camera is better >> than no >> camera for documenting but those are generally weather proofed >> for >> serious use. >> >> It seems like physical smuggling or geo-caching of the data >> would be >> much safer than a sat phone that can be *tracked* and *jammed* >> simultaneously. At least with geo-caching, one could pass >> along the >> coordinates for evidence later and then perhaps at a later >> date, we will >> have the evidence stored, found and released. >> >> As far as physical smuggling, I suspect that people would need to >> swallow the media cards or to sew them into clothing. That >> would allow >> the cameras to stay in the area but for the data to trickle out. >> >> I wish that there was more that I could offer but areas with the >> Rohingya is very hard to reach. If there is information that >> you would >> like to discuss more privately, I welcome contact with GnuPG >> or with OTR >> off list. >> >> If you are able to get the data to a major city, I think that >> physical >> transport *of a copy* will be your best bet for getting the >> data out >> quickly. >> >> All the best, >> Jacob >> -- >> Too many emails? 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