I tend to agree with this. Here are some things that look fishy about
this leak
* The $20 million budget seems paltry. Nothing gets done in government
for that small amount.
* The Powerpoint is amateurish (then again with no budget.....)
* Everybody implicated is denying it (though I suspect they would say
the same if it were true)
* The Guardian says it verified the authenticity of the presentation
but it doesn't say how, nor does it appear they have any
corroborating evidence.
Hopefully their will be some further investigation that will provide
additional evidence about the program's existence.
Jason
On 6/7/2013 12:23 AM, x z wrote:
What surprised me is how Guardian and Washington Post cover this
"story". The Power Point slides looks laughable to me. Maybe I should
interpret "direct access to servers of firms" as like when I'm typing
this email I am also having /a direct access/ to Gmail's servers.
This either a ploy by some "pro-privacy" extremist or a prank by
somebody who's tired of these hyperbole privacy outcries.
2013/6/6 Peter Eckersley <peter.eckers...@gmail.com
<mailto:peter.eckers...@gmail.com>>
Of course, I was reading to fast and leaning to heavily on control+f.
Anyway, 20 million annually seems like a very low number by the
usual standards of efficiency in Department of Defense programs.
But the NSA might already have a data storage, processing and
query architecture in place that is either not included in this
budget or only included on a marginal cost basis.
On 6 June 2013 16:45, Peter Eckersley <peter.eckers...@gmail.com
<mailto:peter.eckers...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Where did you get the $20m budget number from? I can't find
it in any of the stories or attached materials. But I could
be missing something.
On 6 June 2013 16:14, x z <xhzh...@gmail.com
<mailto:xhzh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
doesn't seem real to me. especially the part "*direct
access to servers* of firms ...", and with an annual
budget of measly $20m.
2013/6/6 Michael Carbone <mich...@accessnow.org
<mailto:mich...@accessnow.org>>
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Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data
WaPo:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story_1.html
some of the slides (haven't seen the full ppt drop):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-collection-documents/
Participating companies in chronological order:
Microsoft, Yahoo,
Google, Facebook, PalTalk, YouTube, Skype, AOL, Apple.
Dropbox
apparently next up.
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