In the past I had quite similar thoughts and was trying to analyse the most effective / fair models of democracy (and I really spent a lot of time by this). And I ended up like anarchocapitalist / voluntaryist, everything else was logically/ethically inconsistent for me, so I perceive a democracy like a dead-end - especially in these days when most Americans are OK with PRISM / surveillance and democracy apparently fails. And people still believe in the illusion of democracy (regardless the fact that democracy permanently fails -> Lukashenko, Hugo Chavez, Morsi, Bush -> all these people were democratically elected).
Pavol On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 12:47:52PM -0700, Peter Lindener wrote: > Watching Egypt iteratively attempt to find something that resembles a > democratic form government feels quite uncomfortable for me. Not only that > in the senseless confusion many lives will be lost, but also, closer to > home, here at Stanford, deeper reflections of the human condition seem > still to be leaving our institution's interest in promoting forms of > democracy that are more likely to function in a state of disarray.. > I find it encouraging that Stanford has the kind of vision, value > system and intellect that prompt it to support both a program on > Liberation Techonolgy, as well as the Center for Democracy and the rule of > Law... > Then I have to ask why it seems maintenance of the existing > Socio-Political power schema some how seems to trump moving ahead with the > stated intentions of each of these promising programs..? > While not all seem ready for the rigor of formal methods in information > and Game theory towards building our society's better understanding of > what it truly means to achieve a more genuine sense of democracy (i.e. a > government for the people, by the people)... It would see that to just sit > by and watch, as we preach to others that democracy is good, and then fail > in any truly meaningful way to show how to achieve it, feels discouraging, > at least for me. > In a nut shell, the truly democratic group decision process, can best > be understood as an information process that under some circumstances must > endure varying amounts of game stress. as varying interests within a > group attempt to maximize there influence on the group's decision outcome. > > The good news here is that: Significant insights can be gained, as one > looks at the truly democratic group decision, as an information process.. > These include: > 1. Profoundly improved, individually selected, issue specialized, > expertise leveraged, representation can be achieved by way of > individualized Social Network based key word triggered proxy directives.. > > 2. Wide open alternative Cardinal ranked group choice systems, that are > essentially free of the spoiler effect, will empower the implementation of > crowd sourced "idea percolators", that will tend to leverage the best > thinking and problem solvers within our society. > Now I know that some (perhaps from there ivory tower) may be wanting to > dismiss what it is I'm saying here....even as we sit watching the > situation in Egypt potentially melt down.... Some might point to Arrow's > Impossibility Theorem, and then declare that there is nothing more to > discuss... > Then a few (including a few very bright Stanford students) might be > taking note of Von Neumann*Morgenstern utility theorem, and realize that > there would seem to be more to understand... > Working towards the dream of government, for the people, by the > people, I will continue to make my self available as a resource for > discussion surround the concept of Information Theoretic Democracy. > Sincerely your's > -Peter Lindener > > -- > Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by > emailing moderator at [email protected] or changing your settings at > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- ______________________________________________________________________________ [Pavol Luptak, Nethemba s.r.o.] [http://www.nethemba.com] [tel: +421905400542]
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