-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 7/28/2013 7:38 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote: > > On 28 Jul 2013, at 13:21, John Perry wrote: > >> On 7/28/2013 6:44 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote: >>> For those interested, these two forwarded mails mention two >>> separate "secure" Jabber servers with "no-logging". I cannot >>> vouch for the validity of them. >>> >>> IMO, any alternative to running the now closed (as in no >>> non-GTalk users can talk directly) Google Talk service. >>> >>> regards, Bernard >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: John Perry <li...@jpunix.net> Date: 28 July 2013 >>>> 09:21:23 GMT+01:00 To: Jitsi Users <us...@jitsi.org> Subject: >>>> Re: [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server Reply-To: Jitsi Users >>>> <us...@jitsi.org> >>> >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>> >>>> On 7/27/2013 5:44 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: >>>>> I know that Emil has stated that the jit.si server is an >>>>> experimental one and, with the developed focused on making >>>>> the Jisti software even more kick butt, it's probably a bit >>>>> hard for them to constantly troubleshoot server and config >>>>> problems with the service. >>>>> >>>>> So I've set up a similar service at http://patts.us and >>>>> invite anyone interested to use it. We support voice, >>>>> video, and IM and run a Jingle node. We are also completely >>>>> unlogged (even the web server). >>>>> >>>>> Just putting it out there to anyone who's interested. Not >>>>> trying to poach users from the jit.si service. Hopefully, >>>>> this will give Emil and the team a little breathing room. >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, Anthony Papilloon >>> >>>> I don't want to steal any of Anthony's thunder but I also >>>> have a server located at xmpp://chat.jpunix.net that has no >>>> logging and pretty much does what Anthony's does and is open >>>> to anyone that want's to use it. >>> >>>> - -- John Perry > > >> I want to clarify the "secure" part of my server. It is "secure" >> in the regard that it is my own server that I have physical >> access to (it's in my house). It doesn't have any logging turned >> on and I have no intention of turning it on. Anyone is welcome to >> use it that cares to. As far as my trustworthiness goes you are >> welcome to Google jpunix.net and jpunix.com to see the history of >> my domain and my participation in privacy and security issues. > > Hi John, > > Apologies if my comment sound insulting. It was not meant to be, > more just matter-of-fact - I had no knowledge of how > secure/insecure your service was, and therefore didn't want to > sound like I had any assurances. > > I was going for healthy skepticism as opposed to disbelief. Not > sure if I succeeded. > > IMO everyone should run their own Jabber server at home. It'd not > that difficult. > > regards, Bernard
No insult taken!! I was just clarifying the situation. I've been a security/privacy advocate for some time now and I just didn't want anyone to have or perceive any expectations as to the security of the server. As with anything on the Internet all new things should be taken with a grain of salt. Again anyone is welcome to use the server. I just don't make any claims that it's more/less secure than anyone else's server. - -- John Perry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21-beta20 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJR9RJNAAoJEIn5ENyiI2/Nt8gP/3NC2pyCbe7GqftIBkhVMM3k D2KxIq09mUnWVNPgf4AvLS7VqC6TzVrKxGT/Z1YpYaoHQegiQFTfDeCLkj9ZoyjI 2kkiLLIS+r5RDNLME1zXBLnBOT0r5SJ6YONuDmJceVn7EGwaKSRX6361t2yO0KX+ cytxINsANggJ9eoVC2tHNOyepiN8AshZ8+gWSTwAQkojVqCr9AMlMJ5QIUKeIT25 RlfJfHtSDyV1PeZRuT6kilv/mwt5fXPKjwAHJ4gMTpzhhD220JMG70bbEM1JUqCj 4D20SmamjeKuAfMHWDyZsqnI73xqznXa5P9EBpiB5kEDarVhxE+fd1hpqaYzaKMC 7SHZ/tGXemCeFmrF36+tmGapcu74pp1TshS4jGLJ4i3UyTpiJoBpFcjAKUIIdMCH Ve7M2qZ51z4cyGXEIn+cIOXjQM3EsOkGefkFEY2SVG5R/HWz7hr+QB1/RjypkJW/ OukqVSW4SwHZ2uyIh9qCCT43P8p2RFKm7Vt4rmsKh0iDdIkxPc0RbIFIwnJW2Klo 4IOroQEo5iC1Jy9a8gED2aiT73+eNLwK/56+3zdkTiPq/edkYPvRHCwUJcsyElqE Pg4o396jLsGWsxVcgvHwN6aNGHudA17O+8QrNh3TLa7QlQl8g7qKKuk/GVU9my2F yCgd9EKhu8m4AbVaMP0r =cYs9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
