On 3 April 2014 11:00, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes <[email protected]> wrote: > UPDATE > > Apparently Zello has been blocked in Venezuela since last night, and only > people with vpn can get through. This is not acceptable. Zelli's become an > important medium for the population at large - beyond "violent conspirators > " - to stay in touch, denounce, protest, report, coordinate, apart from the > rarefied and not trusted "politicians" from both sides.
I'm in Venezuela, and I can use Zello without VPN/TOR. Maybe next time you should check your information sources before to express a false information. > What would the best tool be for circumvention of this censorship? > > On Mar 7, 2014 2:03 PM, "Dan Staples" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Although the article addresses a number of specific issues relating to >> access of information and censorship during the recent protests, it >> attempts to justify censorship using the argument that "the right to >> live trumps the right to free information". >> >> This argument is made in reference to the likely government-imposed >> censorship of Zello and Pastebin. The problem with this argument is that >> it is not Zello or Pastebin or any other communications medium that is >> responsible for the right-wing violence that has been occurring. Those >> groups that commit the violence, right-wing or not, state-sponsored or >> not, are responsible for their actions. Those groups, and the political >> ideologies that drive and justify the violence, are what should be >> condemned. >> >> It is not justifiable to censor entire communication mediums that are >> used by violent groups, since those mediums are used by the public for >> legitimate reasons. Zello and Pastebin are both popular services used by >> lots of people. It is not justifiable to block all of Zello because some >> groups use it to plan violent actions, just as it is not justifiable for >> the NSA to compromise and surveil all Skype communications for >> purportedly similar reasons. There is no justice in forbidding use of >> the printing press just because some have used it to print calls to >> arms, to use an analogy. >> >> There is certainly a disproportionate amount of uncritical and >> inaccurate reporting on the situation in Venezuela, no doubt, and much >> of it is used to misrepresent elite-backed right-wing extremists as >> deserving victims of a tyrannical regime. But this type of justification >> for censorship is without merit. >> >> I'd really love to hear more people's thoughts on this, especially those >> with experience in the country. >> >> -Dan >> >> On 03/03/2014 07:11 PM, Damian Fossi wrote: >> > Original text in spanish: http://www.aporrea.org/tecno/n246101.html >> > >> > Text in english: http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/10437 >> > >> > Best Regards, >> > >> >> -- >> http://disman.tl >> OpenPGP key: http://disman.tl/pgp.asc >> Fingerprint: 2480 095D 4B16 436F 35AB 7305 F670 74ED BD86 43A9 >> -- >> Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations >> of list guidelines will get you moderated: >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, >> change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at >> [email protected]. > > > -- > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of > list guidelines will get you moderated: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, > change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at > [email protected]. Regards, -- Damián D. Fossi Salas > ¡Software Libre hasta el 2 mil siempre! http://about.me/dam1an Uso: Debian GNU/Linux con Kernel 3.12.6-libre Linux User: 188464 Jabber ID: dam1an en chat.cpunks.us Twitter.com > http://twitter.com/dam1an -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at [email protected].
