I checked, Damian. Perhaps it was a Zello glitch. And please note the first word of the posting: "Apparently"
Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato, Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes <[email protected]> +1 (817) 271-9619 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Damian Fossi <[email protected]> wrote: > On 3 April 2014 11:00, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes > <[email protected]> wrote: >> UPDATE >> >> Apparently Zello has been blocked in Venezuela since last night, and only >> people with vpn can get through. This is not acceptable. Zelli's become an >> important medium for the population at large - beyond "violent conspirators >> " - to stay in touch, denounce, protest, report, coordinate, apart from the >> rarefied and not trusted "politicians" from both sides. > > I'm in Venezuela, and I can use Zello without VPN/TOR. Maybe next time > you should check your information sources before to express a false > information. > >> What would the best tool be for circumvention of this censorship? >> >> On Mar 7, 2014 2:03 PM, "Dan Staples" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Although the article addresses a number of specific issues relating to >>> access of information and censorship during the recent protests, it >>> attempts to justify censorship using the argument that "the right to >>> live trumps the right to free information". >>> >>> This argument is made in reference to the likely government-imposed >>> censorship of Zello and Pastebin. The problem with this argument is that >>> it is not Zello or Pastebin or any other communications medium that is >>> responsible for the right-wing violence that has been occurring. Those >>> groups that commit the violence, right-wing or not, state-sponsored or >>> not, are responsible for their actions. Those groups, and the political >>> ideologies that drive and justify the violence, are what should be >>> condemned. >>> >>> It is not justifiable to censor entire communication mediums that are >>> used by violent groups, since those mediums are used by the public for >>> legitimate reasons. Zello and Pastebin are both popular services used by >>> lots of people. It is not justifiable to block all of Zello because some >>> groups use it to plan violent actions, just as it is not justifiable for >>> the NSA to compromise and surveil all Skype communications for >>> purportedly similar reasons. There is no justice in forbidding use of >>> the printing press just because some have used it to print calls to >>> arms, to use an analogy. >>> >>> There is certainly a disproportionate amount of uncritical and >>> inaccurate reporting on the situation in Venezuela, no doubt, and much >>> of it is used to misrepresent elite-backed right-wing extremists as >>> deserving victims of a tyrannical regime. But this type of justification >>> for censorship is without merit. >>> >>> I'd really love to hear more people's thoughts on this, especially those >>> with experience in the country. >>> >>> -Dan >>> >>> On 03/03/2014 07:11 PM, Damian Fossi wrote: >>> > Original text in spanish: http://www.aporrea.org/tecno/n246101.html >>> > >>> > Text in english: http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/10437 >>> > >>> > Best Regards, >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> http://disman.tl >>> OpenPGP key: http://disman.tl/pgp.asc >>> Fingerprint: 2480 095D 4B16 436F 35AB 7305 F670 74ED BD86 43A9 >>> -- >>> Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations >>> of list guidelines will get you moderated: >>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, >>> change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at >>> [email protected]. >> >> >> -- >> Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of >> list guidelines will get you moderated: >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, >> change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at >> [email protected]. > > Regards, > > -- > Damián D. Fossi Salas > ¡Software Libre hasta el 2 mil siempre! > http://about.me/dam1an > > Uso: > Debian GNU/Linux con Kernel 3.12.6-libre > > Linux User: 188464 > Jabber ID: dam1an en chat.cpunks.us > Twitter.com > http://twitter.com/dam1an -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at [email protected].
